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Welcome<00:00:00.440><c> everyone</c><00:00:00.800><c> to</c><00:00:00.920><c> our</c><00:00:01.040><c> talk.</c><00:00:01.440><c> I</c><00:00:01.560><c> am</c><00:00:01.760><c> Alan</c>

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Welcome everyone to our talk. I am Alan
 

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Welcome everyone to our talk. I am Alan
Diper.<00:00:02.360><c> This</c><00:00:02.520><c> is</c><00:00:02.600><c> my</c><00:00:03.040><c> long-time</c><00:00:03.480><c> friend</c><00:00:03.840><c> and</c>

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Diper. This is my long-time friend and
 

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Diper. This is my long-time friend and
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open source collaborator Misha Niskin.
 

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open source collaborator Misha Niskin.
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Uh we're here to
 

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Uh we're here to
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uh give a short a short talk about kind
 

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uh give a short a short talk about kind
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of the dark arts. Maybe some of you have
 

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of the dark arts. Maybe some of you have
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seen Army of Darkness. Familiar with the
 

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seen Army of Darkness. Familiar with the
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book, the Necronomicon?
 

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book, the Necronomicon?
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No, we're actually not going to talk
 

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No, we're actually not going to talk
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about these kinds of things. We're going
 

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about these kinds of things. We're going
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to talk about computers. In particular,
 

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to talk about computers. In particular,
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we're going to talk about web
 

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we're going to talk about web
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application programming. So, there have
 

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application programming. So, there have
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been uh more than a handful of of talks
 

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been uh more than a handful of of talks
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about this topic. We're just uh
 

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about this topic. We're just uh
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another way to make web pages. So, uh
 

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another way to make web pages. So, uh
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Cool. There's our
 

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Cool. There's our
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info. If you'd like to pull up any of
 

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info. If you'd like to pull up any of
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our information right now, hoplon.io is
 

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our information right now, hoplon.io is
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the place to go to learn.
 

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the place to go to learn.
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Why are we interested in the
 

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Necronomicon? Dark spells, evil magics
 

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Necronomicon? Dark spells, evil magics
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with the CK ending.
 

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with the CK ending.
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we're looking at an increasingly hostile
 

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we're looking at an increasingly hostile
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platform space. By hostile, I mean more
 

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platform space. By hostile, I mean more
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complicated. All kinds of different
 

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complicated. All kinds of different
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deployment targets now. It used to be
 

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deployment targets now. It used to be
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just, you know, IE 5.5 on Windows XP and
 

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just, you know, IE 5.5 on Windows XP and
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it was good. Now it's, you know, it
 

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it was good. Now it's, you know, it
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needs to work on Chrome 33, Firefox 25,
 

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needs to work on Chrome 33, Firefox 25,
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WebKit 2.whatever.
 

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WebKit 2.whatever.
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So, we're in uh facing a a wall of
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complexity when it comes to platforms
 

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complexity when it comes to platforms
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we're expected to deliver to.
 

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we're expected to deliver to.
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will take to build any given application
 

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will take to build any given application
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to target any particular set of
 

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to target any particular set of
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platforms. I guess by we, I just mean me
 

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platforms. I guess by we, I just mean me
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and and Misha. He's worse than I am.
 

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and and Misha. He's worse than I am.
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But, we're both pretty bad at it. And
 

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But, we're both pretty bad at it. And
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honestly, I even the best developers,
 

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honestly, I even the best developers,
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programmers I've ever met are usually
 

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programmers I've ever met are usually
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off by an order of magnitude. Maybe
 

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off by an order of magnitude. Maybe
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maybe maybe three to four times.
 

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maybe maybe three to four times.
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few people are really good at
 

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few people are really good at
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estimating. Even even the best of us.
 

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estimating. Even even the best of us.
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So, this is kind of scary. We don't know
 

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So, this is kind of scary. We don't know
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how long anything we do will take.
 

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how long anything we do will take.
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That's weird. Why do people hire us?
 

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That's weird. Why do people hire us?
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once we do have something figured out,
 

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once we do have something figured out,
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like we're happy with something, we've
 

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like we're happy with something, we've
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shipped it. Oh yeah, we shipped the app,
 

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shipped it. Oh yeah, we shipped the app,
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works great, Android 4.5. Awesome. You
 

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works great, Android 4.5. Awesome. You
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know, snowball or whatever it's called.
 

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know, snowball or whatever it's called.
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Snow ice cream. Ice cream.
 

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Snow ice cream. Ice cream.
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but then the next day somebody says,
 

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but then the next day somebody says,
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"Hey, does it work on iOS?"
 

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"Hey, does it work on iOS?"
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It should. I mean, you know, one's web
 

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It should. I mean, you know, one's web
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kit, the other they're both sort of web
 

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kit, the other they're both sort of web
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kit based, should work. But of course it
 

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kit based, should work. But of course it
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doesn't because, you know, one is a
 

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doesn't because, you know, one is a
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different aspect ratio or whatever. So
 

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different aspect ratio or whatever. So
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now we're facing again this this wall of
 

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now we're facing again this this wall of
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complexity and we
 

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complexity and we
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are not able to estimate how long it
 

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are not able to estimate how long it
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would take to port one app to a
 

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would take to port one app to a
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different platform.
 

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different platform.
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So all of these battles are you would
 

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So all of these battles are you would
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think are easy ones to fight. Like I
 

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think are easy ones to fight. Like I
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have an existing app, I need to get it
 

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have an existing app, I need to get it
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to work on a slightly different
 

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to work on a slightly different
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platform. No, it's not easy, it's
 

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platform. No, it's not easy, it's
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incredibly hard. And um
 

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incredibly hard. And um
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to solve this problem we need to look
 

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to solve this problem we need to look
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towards the dark arts, dead
 

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towards the dark arts, dead
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technologies. Spreadsheets are one of
 

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technologies. Spreadsheets are one of
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those technologies.
 

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those technologies.
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spreadsheets are not just notorious, I'd
 

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spreadsheets are not just notorious, I'd
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say spreadsheets are infamous. I mean,
 

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say spreadsheets are infamous. I mean,
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these are
 

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these are
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We've all had experiences with
 

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spreadsheets. Um
 

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spreadsheets. Um
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they've been around forever. We kind of
 

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they've been around forever. We kind of
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count on them as or we we see them as
 

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count on them as or we we see them as
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just a part of the computing landscape.
 

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just a part of the computing landscape.
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Um this is an example of VisiCalc from
 

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Um this is an example of VisiCalc from
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1979. This was the killer app for the
 

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1979. This was the killer app for the
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Apple II.
 

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Apple II.
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so that's what a spreadsheet looked like
 

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so that's what a spreadsheet looked like
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in 1979.
 

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in 1979.
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This is what the spreadsheet looks in
 

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This is what the spreadsheet looks in
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2014.
 

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2014.
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what Anybody notice anything?
 

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what Anybody notice anything?
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The colors changed a little. What does
 

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The colors changed a little. What does
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this look like though? Hit us, Misha.
 

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this look like though? Hit us, Misha.
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Patrick Stewart.
 

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Patrick Stewart.
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Patrick Stewart has not aged.
 

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Patrick Stewart has not aged.
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Neither have spreadsheets. They're the
 

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Neither have spreadsheets. They're the
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same thing. They have been forever. For
 

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same thing. They have been forever. For
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all times, Patrick Stewart has been
 

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all times, Patrick Stewart has been
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Patrick Stewart and spreadsheets have
 

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Patrick Stewart and spreadsheets have
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been spreadsheets.
 

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been spreadsheets.
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Like Patrick Stewart, spreadsheets are
 

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Like Patrick Stewart, spreadsheets are
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amazing. They're an amazing technology.
 

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amazing. They're an amazing technology.
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To the extent that
 

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Patrick Stewart is a technology.
 

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Patrick Stewart is a technology.
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Should have thought about that slide.
 

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Should have thought about that slide.
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But they're both amazing.
 

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But they're both amazing.
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unlike Patrick Stewart, a lot of
 

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unlike Patrick Stewart, a lot of
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programmers don't like spreadsheets.
 

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programmers don't like spreadsheets.
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Uh I don't know what it is. You know,
 

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Uh I don't know what it is. You know,
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they have a long time association with
 

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they have a long time association with
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Windows and sort of business stuff that
 

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Windows and sort of business stuff that
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seems stupid.
 

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seems stupid.
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So, we disparage them openly. I mean,
 

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So, we disparage them openly. I mean,
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it's I honestly I it's rare that you run
 

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it's I honestly I it's rare that you run
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into a programmer who's like, "Dude, I'm
 

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into a programmer who's like, "Dude, I'm
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into VB macros."
 

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into VB macros."
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Yeah, I'm talking to a strange loop
 

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Yeah, I'm talking to a strange loop
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about VB4 macros and Excel 97. Cool.
 

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about VB4 macros and Excel 97. Cool.
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Like, you don't hear that. No. We think
 

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Like, you don't hear that. No. We think
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they suck.
 

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they suck.
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So, we see them as an open problem, like
 

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something that we need to solve. Like,
 

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something that we need to solve. Like,
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the fact that we have a close friend who
 

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the fact that we have a close friend who
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uses a spreadsheet. Like, let's
 

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uses a spreadsheet. Like, let's
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intervene. I'm going to make this person
 

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intervene. I'm going to make this person
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a program. Like, I'm going to
 

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a program. Like, I'm going to
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Whoa.
 

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Whoa.
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Part of that is that they're not sort of
 

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computer science-y enough. There aren't
 

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computer science-y enough. There aren't
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really open problems around them.
 

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really open problems around them.
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But, the reality of spreadsheets are
 

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that they're what people use when we let
 

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that they're what people use when we let
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them down. When we fail someone, when
 

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them down. When we fail someone, when
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they come to us and say, "Oh, hey, you
 

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they come to us and say, "Oh, hey, you
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know, what would it take to visualize
 

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know, what would it take to visualize
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these sales figures?" And you're like,
 

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these sales figures?" And you're like,
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"Well, I need a team of five, a budget
 

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"Well, I need a team of five, a budget
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of 3 million, and 4 months." You're
 

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of 3 million, and 4 months." You're
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like, "Okay, spreadsheet time." 20
 

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like, "Okay, spreadsheet time." 20
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minutes later, done.
 

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minutes later, done.
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They're the technology that people go to
 

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to solve their problems when we're not
 

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to solve their problems when we're not
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able to. So, if we're going to learn
 

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able to. So, if we're going to learn
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from anything, I think spreadsheets are
 

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from anything, I think spreadsheets are
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a great place to look.
 

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a great place to look.
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Um I took a stab here at describing
 

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We're kind of taking a look at
 

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We're kind of taking a look at
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spreadsheets from the from the eyes of a
 

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spreadsheets from the from the eyes of a
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programming language and environment.
 

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programming language and environment.
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uh spreadsheets are amazing for roughly
 

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uh spreadsheets are amazing for roughly
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these three reasons. I mean, they suck
 

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these three reasons. I mean, they suck
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for a lot more, but for these three
 

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for a lot more, but for these three
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reasons, I think they're particularly
 

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reasons, I think they're particularly
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incredible and we should we should dive
 

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incredible and we should we should dive
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in. I think they're reactive out of the
 

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in. I think they're reactive out of the
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box. I mean, there's a there's like a
 

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box. I mean, there's a there's like a
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reactive manifesto now. We're looking at
 

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reactive manifesto now. We're looking at
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FRP and all this stuff, but spreadsheets
 

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FRP and all this stuff, but spreadsheets
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have been they've been doing reactive
 

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have been they've been doing reactive
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programming since 1979.
 

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programming since 1979.
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So, this is uh something pretty
 

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So, this is uh something pretty
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incredible.
 

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incredible.
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They're transparent. They're transparent
 

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in the way
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um your program is transparent when you
 

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um your program is transparent when you
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have a good debugger attached.
 

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have a good debugger attached.
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It's easy to see, at least for
 

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some size of spreadsheets, what's going
 

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some size of spreadsheets, what's going
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on.
 

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And finally, and I think most
 

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importantly, they're layered. They
 

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importantly, they're layered. They
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present a layered approach to computing
 

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present a layered approach to computing
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that allows small groups of people and
 

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that allows small groups of people and
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teams and businesses to to work on each
 

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teams and businesses to to work on each
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other to extend each other's work easily
 

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other to extend each other's work easily
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in ways that we have a lot of difficulty
 

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in ways that we have a lot of difficulty
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doing with our programming
 

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doing with our programming
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uh constructs.
 

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uh constructs.
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So, reactivity is the first thing I'm
 

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going to hit on here. Uh this is a
 

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going to hit on here. Uh this is a
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screenshot from a interview that uh Rich
 

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screenshot from a interview that uh Rich
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Hickey did with Brian Beckman a couple
 

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Hickey did with Brian Beckman a couple
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years ago.
 

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years ago.
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Ironically, at Microsoft on the
 

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Ironically, at Microsoft on the
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spreadsheet.
 

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spreadsheet.
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One of the things Rich says uh when the
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topic of uh
 

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the so-called epical time model comes up
 

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the so-called epical time model comes up
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is that you can have a lot of semantics
 

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is that you can have a lot of semantics
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for managing time once you separate
 

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for managing time once you separate
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value from identity. So, this is the
 

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value from identity. So, this is the
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separation that Clojure uh gives us
 

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separation that Clojure uh gives us
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where we separate, you know, the name of
 

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where we separate, you know, the name of
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something with the value it may have at
 

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something with the value it may have at
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a point in time.
 

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a point in time.
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Um in spreadsheet world, we do have
 

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something like that, a reference type,
 

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something like that, a reference type,
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if you will, that uh
 

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if you will, that uh
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sort of fits into this this worldview.
 

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sort of fits into this this worldview.
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It It It's fine.
 

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It It It's fine.
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And that's the cell.
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The cell in a lot of ways, and by cell I
 

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mean, you know, the little box in a
 

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mean, you know, the little box in a
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spreadsheet where you type in a value or
 

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spreadsheet where you type in a value or
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a formula, is one of these reference
 

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a formula, is one of these reference
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types. It's a reactive unit of time
 

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types. It's a reactive unit of time
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management. Uh it's what gives
 

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management. Uh it's what gives
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spreadsheets this magical property of
 

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spreadsheets this magical property of
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reactivity.
 

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spreadsheets is that time does not exist
 

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spreadsheets is that time does not exist
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in the spreadsheet. Um you know, if
 

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in the spreadsheet. Um you know, if
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anybody's like seen the SICP lectures,
 

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anybody's like seen the SICP lectures,
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three lectures without even mutating
 

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three lectures without even mutating
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anything. And then suddenly, you know,
 

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anything. And then suddenly, you know,
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you define something a second time and
 

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you define something a second time and
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time is introduced. Spreadsheets, there
 

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time is introduced. Spreadsheets, there
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is no time. They are timeless and
 

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is no time. They are timeless and
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They're transparent. Um
 

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They're transparent. Um
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So, again, you know, the the spreadsheet
 

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So, again, you know, the the spreadsheet
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interface is basically the an incredible
 

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interface is basically the an incredible
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debugger. It's an awesome debugging
 

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debugger. It's an awesome debugging
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environment. You can see every the value
 

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environment. You can see every the value
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of every variable.
 

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of every variable.
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And when you change the values of these
 

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constituent variables, things change
 

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constituent variables, things change
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You You easily see what's going on.
 

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You You easily see what's going on.
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have visual visualizations backed by
 

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have visual visualizations backed by
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either of those things.
 

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either of those things.
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just a great a great debugging They're
 

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just a great a great debugging They're
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Uh the third point I mentioned about
 

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Uh the third point I mentioned about
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layering, uh I think we can we can start
 

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layering, uh I think we can we can start
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to see here. So, we're looking at a
 

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to see here. So, we're looking at a
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spreadsheet and we've got a data grid
 

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spreadsheet and we've got a data grid
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and then we've got a visualization. The
 

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and then we've got a visualization. The
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incredible thing about what we're seeing
 

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incredible thing about what we're seeing
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here is that you can change
 

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here is that you can change
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attributes of the way the data is
 

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attributes of the way the data is
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displayed, like those red uh horizontal
 

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displayed, like those red uh horizontal
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bars. Maybe I want them to be blue
 

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bars. Maybe I want them to be blue
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underlying data.
 

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underlying data.
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Likewise, or or symmetrically, I could
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change the data without changing the
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just get uh yeah, look at this next
 

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just get uh yeah, look at this next
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screen here.
 

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you can add new charts. You can have N
 

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you can add new charts. You can have N
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charts, all different kinds of charts. I
 

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charts, all different kinds of charts. I
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here I'm showing off like the pie chart,
 

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here I'm showing off like the pie chart,
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which is like
 

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which is like
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probably not the one you want, but um
 

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probably not the one you want, but um
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you know, there are lots of charts and
 

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you know, there are lots of charts and
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we can attach them or plug them into
 

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we can attach them or plug them into
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this existing data and formula without
 

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this existing data and formula without
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changing the data or the formulas. And
 

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changing the data or the formulas. And
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this is incredible power.
 

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this is incredible power.
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So, that's the tech. The sort of human
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side of it is that spreadsheets give us
 

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side of it is that spreadsheets give us
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this natural boundary to divide labor.
 

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this natural boundary to divide labor.
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One person can enter the data.
 

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One person can enter the data.
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Someone who knows the business or knows
 

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Someone who knows the business or knows
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the what relationships to look for in
 

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the what relationships to look for in
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the data can write formulas.
 

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the data can write formulas.
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And then others can make visualizations
 

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And then others can make visualizations
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without necessarily writing formulas or
 

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without necessarily writing formulas or
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entering new data.
 

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entering new data.
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So, what we see in organizations that
 

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use spreadsheets is these spreadsheets
 

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use spreadsheets is these spreadsheets
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sort of circulate
 

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sort of circulate
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like, you know, trash around the oceans
 

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like, you know, trash around the oceans
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from different
 

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from different
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uh business units inside the company.
 

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uh business units inside the company.
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And people tack stuff on. Maybe they'll
 

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And people tack stuff on. Maybe they'll
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want to use it for a report. Oh, maybe I
 

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want to use it for a report. Oh, maybe I
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have a better idea for how to do this
 

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have a better idea for how to do this
formula.

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formula.
 

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formula.
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Um
 

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Um
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I mean, that's that's from a like a
 

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I mean, that's that's from a like a
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change management perspective that's
 

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change management perspective that's
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bad, but it's amazing from the
 

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bad, but it's amazing from the
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perspective of everybody has a way to
 

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perspective of everybody has a way to
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contribute something they're good at to
 

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contribute something they're good at to
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this to this programming and this
 

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this to this programming and this
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environment.
 

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environment.
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So, hoplon this web
 

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So, hoplon this web
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thing it's a it's a framework a set of
 

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thing it's a it's a framework a set of
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libraries that we've developed working
 

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libraries that we've developed working
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closure and closure script. It's if it's
 

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closure and closure script. It's if it's
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influenced by any one thing I'd say that
 

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influenced by any one thing I'd say that
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thing is spreadsheets.
 

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thing is spreadsheets.
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So, at the heart of our framework is a
 

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So, at the heart of our framework is a
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closure script library called Javelin.
 

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closure script library called Javelin.
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And Javelin is an abstract spreadsheet.
 

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And Javelin is an abstract spreadsheet.
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It's a way to do spreadsheet like
 

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It's a way to do spreadsheet like
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programming in a closure script
 

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programming in a closure script
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environment. And our goal is to try and
 

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environment. And our goal is to try and
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deliver all of the things that are good
 

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deliver all of the things that are good
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about spreadsheets to the closure script
 

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about spreadsheets to the closure script
programmer.

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programmer.
 

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programmer.
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So, like normal spreadsheets Excel 97
 

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So, like normal spreadsheets Excel 97
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we have input cells.
 

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we have input cells.
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And one creates input cells
 

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And one creates input cells
by

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by
 

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by
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one one of two methods. The first method
 

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one one of two methods. The first method
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is you can call the cell constructor.
 

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is you can call the cell constructor.
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And this is this is just a function you
 

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And this is this is just a function you
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call that returns a reference type of
 

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call that returns a reference type of
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cell. This is similar to how you would
 

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cell. This is similar to how you would
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create an atom or an agent or any kind
 

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create an atom or an agent or any kind
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of closure reference type.
 

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of closure reference type.
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So, here we're def defining a thing to
 

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So, here we're def defining a thing to
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be the cell.
 

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be the cell.
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Another way to make a cell in with
 

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Another way to make a cell in with
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Javelin is we have a macro def C. And
 

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Javelin is we have a macro def C. And
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all that does is create a cell named N
 

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all that does is create a cell named N
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and you don't have to type the
 

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and you don't have to type the
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constructor in. We just have this
 

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constructor in. We just have this
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because our programs tend to have lots
 

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because our programs tend to have lots
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of cells.
 

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of cells.
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We have formula cells. Formula cells are
 

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We have formula cells. Formula cells are
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different from input cells and that they
 

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different from input cells and that they
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shouldn't really be mutated. You don't
 

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shouldn't really be mutated. You don't
change<00:11:07.280><c> the</c><00:11:07.400><c> contents</c><00:11:07.800><c> of</c><00:11:07.880><c> them</c><00:11:08.160><c> dynamically</c>

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change the contents of them dynamically
 

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change the contents of them dynamically
necessarily.<00:11:10.120><c> What</c><00:11:10.240><c> they</c><00:11:10.360><c> do</c><00:11:10.560><c> contain</c><00:11:11.000><c> are</c>

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necessarily. What they do contain are
 

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necessarily. What they do contain are
closure<00:11:11.480><c> script</c><00:11:11.760><c> expressions</c><00:11:12.480><c> which</c><00:11:12.800><c> are</c>

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closure script expressions which are
 

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closure script expressions which are
analogous<00:11:14.000><c> to</c><00:11:14.560><c> the</c><00:11:14.680><c> formula</c><00:11:15.080><c> values</c><00:11:15.600><c> in</c><00:11:16.360><c> you</c>

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analogous to the formula values in you
 

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analogous to the formula values in you
know<00:11:16.520><c> an</c><00:11:16.760><c> Excel</c><00:11:17.080><c> spreadsheet.</c><00:11:18.120><c> So,</c><00:11:18.240><c> in</c><00:11:18.320><c> this</c>

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know an Excel spreadsheet. So, in this
 

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know an Excel spreadsheet. So, in this
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case we're defining an input cell called
 

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case we're defining an input cell called
N<00:11:21.120><c> giving</c><00:11:21.320><c> an</c><00:11:21.440><c> initial</c><00:11:21.720><c> value</c><00:11:21.960><c> of</c><00:11:22.040><c> zero.</c>

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N giving an initial value of zero.
 

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N giving an initial value of zero.
Then<00:11:23.400><c> we're</c><00:11:23.480><c> defining</c><00:11:24.120><c> a</c><00:11:24.240><c> formula</c><00:11:24.800><c> cell</c>

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Then we're defining a formula cell
 

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Then we're defining a formula cell
called<00:11:25.440><c> N</c><00:11:25.560><c> *</c><00:11:25.880><c> 5</c><00:11:26.839><c> and</c><00:11:27.000><c> we're</c><00:11:27.120><c> using</c><00:11:27.440><c> cell</c><00:11:27.880><c> equal</c>

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called N * 5 and we're using cell equal
 

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called N * 5 and we're using cell equal
which<00:11:28.520><c> is</c><00:11:28.720><c> the</c><00:11:28.880><c> cell</c><00:11:29.440><c> a</c><00:11:29.520><c> formula</c><00:11:29.880><c> cell</c>

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which is the cell a formula cell
 

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which is the cell a formula cell
constructor<00:11:30.640><c> macro</c><00:11:31.600><c> that</c><00:11:31.760><c> takes</c><00:11:31.960><c> an</c>

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constructor macro that takes an
 

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constructor macro that takes an
expression.

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expression.
 

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expression.
And<00:11:33.760><c> at</c><00:11:33.840><c> this</c><00:11:34.040><c> point</c><00:11:34.240><c> we</c><00:11:34.360><c> can</c><00:11:34.480><c> differ</c>

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And at this point we can differ
 

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And at this point we can differ
dereference<00:11:35.440><c> either</c><00:11:35.720><c> n</c><00:11:36.040><c> or</c><00:11:36.240><c> n</c><00:11:36.360><c> *</c><00:11:36.640><c> 5</c><00:11:37.080><c> and</c><00:11:37.200><c> we'll</c>

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dereference either n or n * 5 and we'll
 

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dereference either n or n * 5 and we'll
see<00:11:37.640><c> values</c><00:11:38.000><c> that</c><00:11:38.120><c> are</c><00:11:38.200><c> consistent.</c>

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see values that are consistent.
 

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see values that are consistent.
If<00:11:40.520><c> we</c><00:11:40.640><c> swap</c><00:11:41.000><c> bang</c><00:11:41.200><c> on</c><00:11:41.360><c> n,</c><00:11:41.920><c> incrementing</c><00:11:42.440><c> the</c>

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If we swap bang on n, incrementing the
 

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If we swap bang on n, incrementing the
its<00:11:43.280><c> value,</c>

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its value,
 

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its value,
and<00:11:44.760><c> then</c><00:11:44.920><c> dereference</c><00:11:45.480><c> n</c><00:11:45.720><c> and</c><00:11:45.840><c> dereference</c><00:11:46.280><c> n</c>

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and then dereference n and dereference n
 

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and then dereference n and dereference n
*<00:11:46.640><c> 5,</c><00:11:47.640><c> we'll</c><00:11:47.760><c> see</c><00:11:47.880><c> that</c><00:11:48.040><c> n</c><00:11:48.200><c> has</c><00:11:48.360><c> been</c>

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* 5, we'll see that n has been
 

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* 5, we'll see that n has been
incremented<00:11:49.200><c> and</c><00:11:50.120><c> n</c><00:11:50.360><c> *</c><00:11:50.640><c> 5</c><00:11:50.960><c> is</c><00:11:51.080><c> somewhat</c>

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incremented and n * 5 is somewhat
 

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incremented and n * 5 is somewhat
magically,<00:11:51.960><c> but</c><00:11:52.280><c> in</c><00:11:52.400><c> that</c><00:11:52.680><c> awesome</c>

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magically, but in that awesome
 

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magically, but in that awesome
spreadsheet<00:11:53.400><c> way,</c>

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spreadsheet way,
 

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spreadsheet way,
uh<00:11:54.600><c> reflects</c><00:11:55.560><c> the</c><00:11:55.640><c> value.</c><00:11:56.160><c> And</c><00:11:56.360><c> that's</c><00:11:56.600><c> the</c>

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uh reflects the value. And that's the
 

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uh reflects the value. And that's the
value<00:11:56.960><c> we</c><00:11:57.080><c> established</c><00:11:57.760><c> through</c><00:11:57.920><c> our</c>

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value we established through our
 

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value we established through our
formula.

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Uh<00:12:01.800><c> the</c><00:12:02.000><c> the</c><00:12:02.120><c> same</c><00:12:02.280><c> way</c><00:12:02.360><c> there's</c><00:12:02.520><c> a</c><00:12:02.560><c> defc,</c>

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Uh the the same way there's a defc,
 

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Uh the the same way there's a defc,
there's<00:12:03.120><c> a</c><00:12:03.160><c> defc=</c><00:12:03.920><c> and</c><00:12:04.000><c> again</c><00:12:04.200><c> this</c><00:12:04.360><c> is</c><00:12:04.440><c> just</c>

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there's a defc= and again this is just
 

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there's a defc= and again this is just
sort<00:12:04.760><c> of</c><00:12:04.880><c> a</c>

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sort of a
 

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sort of a
having<00:12:06.280><c> fun</c><00:12:06.440><c> with</c><00:12:06.560><c> macros</c><00:12:06.960><c> little</c><00:12:07.120><c> exercise.</c>

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having fun with macros little exercise.
 

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having fun with macros little exercise.
Javelin<00:12:09.520><c> is</c><00:12:09.880><c> different</c><00:12:10.320><c> in</c><00:12:10.440><c> I</c><00:12:10.480><c> think</c><00:12:10.680><c> some</c>

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Javelin is different in I think some
 

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Javelin is different in I think some
interesting<00:12:11.200><c> ways</c><00:12:11.480><c> from</c><00:12:11.640><c> spreadsheets</c><00:12:12.240><c> that</c>

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interesting ways from spreadsheets that
 

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interesting ways from spreadsheets that
you<00:12:12.520><c> may</c><00:12:12.640><c> be</c><00:12:12.800><c> used</c><00:12:13.000><c> to.</c><00:12:13.400><c> The</c><00:12:13.520><c> first</c><00:12:14.080><c> and</c>

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you may be used to. The first and
 

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you may be used to. The first and
maybe<00:12:15.480><c> coolest</c><00:12:15.920><c> difference</c><00:12:16.280><c> is</c><00:12:16.400><c> that</c><00:12:16.720><c> cells</c>

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maybe coolest difference is that cells
 

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maybe coolest difference is that cells
in<00:12:17.760><c> a</c><00:12:17.800><c> spreadsheet,</c><00:12:18.880><c> like</c><00:12:19.040><c> we</c><00:12:19.160><c> have</c><00:12:19.320><c> in</c><00:12:19.440><c> Excel,</c>

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in a spreadsheet, like we have in Excel,
 

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in a spreadsheet, like we have in Excel,
can't<00:12:20.880><c> take</c><00:12:21.040><c> collection</c><00:12:21.440><c> values.</c><00:12:21.840><c> You</c><00:12:21.960><c> you</c>

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can't take collection values. You you
 

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can't take collection values. You you
can<00:12:22.280><c> put</c><00:12:22.440><c> numbers</c><00:12:22.800><c> and</c><00:12:22.920><c> strings,</c><00:12:23.880><c> but</c><00:12:24.840><c> putting</c>

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can put numbers and strings, but putting
 

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can put numbers and strings, but putting
collection<00:12:25.480><c> values</c><00:12:25.760><c> in</c><00:12:25.840><c> the</c><00:12:25.920><c> cell</c><00:12:26.240><c> is</c><00:12:26.360><c> not</c>

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collection values in the cell is not
 

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collection values in the cell is not
even<00:12:26.640><c> really</c><00:12:26.840><c> possible.</c><00:12:27.400><c> So,</c><00:12:27.760><c> people</c><00:12:28.040><c> have</c>

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even really possible. So, people have
 

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even really possible. So, people have
other<00:12:28.320><c> mechanisms</c><00:12:28.800><c> to</c><00:12:28.920><c> deal</c><00:12:29.040><c> with</c>

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other mechanisms to deal with
 

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other mechanisms to deal with
collections<00:12:29.680><c> like</c><00:12:30.080><c> ranges</c><00:12:30.840><c> and</c><00:12:31.000><c> pivot</c>

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collections like ranges and pivot
 

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collections like ranges and pivot
tables.

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tables.
 

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tables.
Cells<00:12:33.200><c> in</c><00:12:33.400><c> in</c><00:12:33.560><c> ClojureScript</c><00:12:34.040><c> are</c><00:12:34.080><c> not</c><00:12:34.240><c> that</c>

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Cells in in ClojureScript are not that
 

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Cells in in ClojureScript are not that
way.<00:12:34.520><c> Like</c><00:12:34.800><c> any</c><00:12:35.000><c> other</c><00:12:35.200><c> Clojure</c><00:12:35.480><c> reference</c>

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way. Like any other Clojure reference
 

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way. Like any other Clojure reference
type,<00:12:36.080><c> that</c><00:12:36.240><c> you</c><00:12:36.280><c> can</c><00:12:36.400><c> put</c><00:12:36.560><c> any</c><00:12:36.760><c> value</c><00:12:37.080><c> in</c>

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type, that you can put any value in
 

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type, that you can put any value in
them,<00:12:37.360><c> including</c><00:12:38.000><c> other</c><00:12:38.200><c> cells,</c><00:12:39.040><c> functions,</c>

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them, including other cells, functions,
 

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them, including other cells, functions,
I<00:12:39.720><c> mean</c><00:12:39.880><c> anything</c><00:12:40.160><c> that's</c><00:12:40.320><c> a</c><00:12:40.360><c> value,</c><00:12:40.839><c> which</c><00:12:41.000><c> is</c>

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I mean anything that's a value, which is
 

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I mean anything that's a value, which is
everything<00:12:41.440><c> in</c><00:12:41.520><c> ClojureScript,</c><00:12:42.520><c> can</c><00:12:42.640><c> go</c><00:12:42.760><c> in</c><00:12:42.839><c> a</c>

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everything in ClojureScript, can go in a
 

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everything in ClojureScript, can go in a
cell.

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cell.
 

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cell.
And<00:12:45.400><c> the</c><00:12:45.480><c> other</c><00:12:45.600><c> difference</c><00:12:45.920><c> is</c><00:12:46.000><c> that</c><00:12:46.160><c> unlike</c>

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And the other difference is that unlike
 

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And the other difference is that unlike
the<00:12:46.720><c> spreadsheets,</c><00:12:48.000><c> um</c>

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the spreadsheets, um
 

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the spreadsheets, um
uh

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uh
 

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uh
grid,<00:12:51.160><c> the</c><00:12:51.240><c> global</c><00:12:51.600><c> scope</c><00:12:51.880><c> of</c><00:12:52.000><c> a</c><00:12:52.040><c> spreadsheet</c>

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grid, the global scope of a spreadsheet
 

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grid, the global scope of a spreadsheet
is<00:12:52.640><c> this</c><00:12:52.920><c> 2D</c><00:12:53.280><c> grid.</c><00:12:54.360><c> The</c><00:12:54.440><c> scopes</c><00:12:54.960><c> and</c><00:12:55.080><c> names</c><00:12:55.520><c> in</c>

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is this 2D grid. The scopes and names in
 

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is this 2D grid. The scopes and names in
Javelin<00:12:56.160><c> follow</c><00:12:56.480><c> ClojureScript's.</c><00:12:57.280><c> So,</c><00:12:57.400><c> you</c>

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Javelin follow ClojureScript's. So, you
 

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Javelin follow ClojureScript's. So, you
can<00:12:57.640><c> create</c><00:12:57.920><c> let</c><00:12:58.120><c> bound</c><00:12:58.480><c> cells,</c><00:12:58.920><c> that</c><00:12:59.040><c> you</c>

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can create let bound cells, that you
 

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can create let bound cells, that you
know,<00:12:59.200><c> cells</c><00:12:59.480><c> that</c><00:12:59.560><c> are</c><00:12:59.640><c> only</c><00:12:59.839><c> available</c>

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know, cells that are only available
 

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know, cells that are only available
inside<00:13:00.400><c> of</c><00:13:00.480><c> closure.</c><00:13:01.440><c> You</c><00:13:01.480><c> can</c><00:13:01.640><c> have</c><00:13:01.839><c> package</c>

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inside of closure. You can have package
 

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inside of closure. You can have package
cells<00:13:02.640><c> in</c><00:13:02.839><c> namespaces.</c>

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cells in namespaces.
 

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cells in namespaces.
So,<00:13:05.040><c> um</c>

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So, um
 

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So, um
that<00:13:05.920><c> approach</c><00:13:06.280><c> that</c><00:13:06.400><c> we</c><00:13:06.480><c> take</c><00:13:06.640><c> with</c><00:13:06.760><c> Javelin</c>

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that approach that we take with Javelin
 

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that approach that we take with Javelin
is<00:13:07.120><c> kind</c><00:13:07.280><c> of</c><00:13:07.360><c> similar</c><00:13:07.640><c> to</c><00:13:07.720><c> the</c><00:13:07.800><c> way</c><00:13:07.960><c> people</c>

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is kind of similar to the way people
 

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is kind of similar to the way people
work<00:13:08.400><c> with</c><00:13:08.600><c> sheets</c><00:13:08.960><c> or</c><00:13:09.080><c> worksheets</c><00:13:09.640><c> in</c><00:13:10.160><c> in</c><00:13:10.839><c> um</c>

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work with sheets or worksheets in in um
 

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work with sheets or worksheets in in um
spreadsheet<00:13:11.440><c> programs.</c>

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So,<00:13:14.760><c> that</c><00:13:14.920><c> was</c><00:13:15.360><c> undead</c><00:13:15.839><c> technology</c><00:13:16.200><c> number</c>

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So, that was undead technology number
 

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So, that was undead technology number
one,<00:13:16.680><c> spreadsheets.</c><00:13:17.680><c> Uh</c><00:13:17.800><c> the</c><00:13:17.920><c> other</c><00:13:18.080><c> undead</c>

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one, spreadsheets. Uh the other undead
 

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one, spreadsheets. Uh the other undead
technology<00:13:18.839><c> which</c><00:13:19.000><c> we're</c><00:13:19.320><c> we're</c><00:13:19.440><c> probably</c>

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technology which we're we're probably
 

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technology which we're we're probably
more<00:13:19.839><c> familiar</c><00:13:20.080><c> with</c><00:13:20.280><c> is</c><00:13:20.440><c> Lisp.</c><00:13:21.000><c> Lisp,</c><00:13:21.680><c> like</c>

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more familiar with is Lisp. Lisp, like
 

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more familiar with is Lisp. Lisp, like
spreadsheets,<00:13:22.400><c> is</c><00:13:23.000><c> most</c><00:13:23.240><c> programmers</c><00:13:23.680><c> think</c>

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spreadsheets, is most programmers think
 

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spreadsheets, is most programmers think
sucks.<00:13:24.520><c> Of</c><00:13:24.560><c> course,</c><00:13:24.760><c> we</c><00:13:24.839><c> know</c><00:13:24.960><c> otherwise.</c>

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sucks. Of course, we know otherwise.
 

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sucks. Of course, we know otherwise.
Um<00:13:27.160><c> so,</c><00:13:27.560><c> I'm</c><00:13:27.640><c> going</c><00:13:27.760><c> to</c><00:13:27.840><c> let</c><00:13:28.200><c> Misha</c><00:13:28.640><c> uh</c>

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Um so, I'm going to let Misha uh
 

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Um so, I'm going to let Misha uh
teach<00:13:29.360><c> us</c><00:13:29.440><c> some</c><00:13:29.560><c> things</c><00:13:29.800><c> about</c><00:13:30.240><c> uh</c><00:13:30.760><c> part</c><00:13:30.960><c> two.</c>

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teach us some things about uh part two.
 

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teach us some things about uh part two.
Yeah,<00:13:32.320><c> so</c><00:13:32.640><c> uh</c><00:13:33.040><c> H</c><00:13:33.240><c> Lisp</c><00:13:33.520><c> is</c><00:13:33.680><c> kind</c><00:13:33.880><c> of</c><00:13:34.000><c> the</c>

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Yeah, so uh H Lisp is kind of the
 

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Yeah, so uh H Lisp is kind of the
charting<00:13:34.800><c> and</c><00:13:35.040><c> forms</c><00:13:35.600><c> the</c><00:13:35.720><c> charts</c><00:13:36.000><c> and</c><00:13:36.120><c> forms</c>

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charting and forms the charts and forms
 

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charting and forms the charts and forms
layer<00:13:37.240><c> of</c><00:13:37.520><c> the</c><00:13:37.640><c> spreadsheet.</c>

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layer of the spreadsheet.
 

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layer of the spreadsheet.
Uh<00:13:39.200><c> a</c><00:13:39.240><c> cool</c><00:13:39.440><c> thing</c><00:13:39.600><c> about</c><00:13:39.800><c> spreadsheets</c><00:13:40.360><c> is</c>

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Uh a cool thing about spreadsheets is
 

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Uh a cool thing about spreadsheets is
that<00:13:41.520><c> given</c><00:13:41.840><c> a</c><00:13:41.880><c> spreadsheet</c><00:13:42.440><c> that</c><00:13:42.600><c> has</c>

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that given a spreadsheet that has
 

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that given a spreadsheet that has
formulas<00:13:43.480><c> you</c><00:13:43.560><c> might</c><00:13:43.720><c> not</c><00:13:43.920><c> even</c><00:13:44.080><c> understand,</c>

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formulas you might not even understand,
 

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formulas you might not even understand,
you<00:13:45.560><c> might</c><00:13:45.760><c> be</c><00:13:45.880><c> presenting</c><00:13:46.560><c> something</c><00:13:47.000><c> to</c><00:13:47.320><c> the</c>

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you might be presenting something to the
 

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you might be presenting something to the
board<00:13:47.760><c> of</c><00:13:47.840><c> directors</c><00:13:48.720><c> or,</c><00:13:49.000><c> you</c><00:13:49.120><c> know,</c><00:13:49.280><c> like</c><00:13:49.480><c> in</c>

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board of directors or, you know, like in
 

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board of directors or, you know, like in
the<00:13:50.040><c> on</c><00:13:50.200><c> TV,</c><00:13:51.160><c> somebody</c><00:13:51.400><c> always</c><00:13:51.600><c> has</c><00:13:51.720><c> to</c><00:13:51.800><c> make</c><00:13:52.000><c> a</c>

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the on TV, somebody always has to make a
 

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the on TV, somebody always has to make a
make<00:13:52.640><c> a</c><00:13:52.720><c> report</c><00:13:53.240><c> by</c><00:13:53.440><c> Friday</c><00:13:53.960><c> or</c><00:13:54.080><c> whatever</c><00:13:54.440><c> and</c>

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make a report by Friday or whatever and
 

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make a report by Friday or whatever and
they<00:13:54.600><c> have</c><00:13:54.720><c> to</c><00:13:54.800><c> stay</c><00:13:54.960><c> up</c><00:13:55.080><c> late.</c><00:13:55.600><c> But,</c><00:13:55.680><c> what</c>

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they have to stay up late. But, what
 

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they have to stay up late. But, what
they're<00:13:55.880><c> doing</c><00:13:56.120><c> is</c><00:13:56.200><c> they're</c><00:13:56.600><c> taking</c><00:13:56.840><c> a</c>

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they're doing is they're taking a
 

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they're doing is they're taking a
spreadsheet<00:13:57.600><c> and</c><00:13:57.880><c> they</c><00:13:57.920><c> have</c><00:13:58.040><c> a</c><00:13:58.120><c> Word</c>

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spreadsheet and they have a Word
 

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spreadsheet and they have a Word
document,<00:13:58.840><c> they're</c><00:13:58.920><c> putting</c><00:13:59.160><c> content</c><00:13:59.640><c> in</c>

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document, they're putting content in
 

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document, they're putting content in
there,<00:14:00.320><c> making</c><00:14:00.600><c> graphs,</c><00:14:01.160><c> things</c><00:14:01.400><c> like</c><00:14:01.560><c> that,</c>

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there, making graphs, things like that,
 

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there, making graphs, things like that,
and<00:14:02.120><c> pulling</c><00:14:02.400><c> them</c><00:14:02.520><c> into</c><00:14:02.680><c> their</c>

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and pulling them into their
 

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and pulling them into their
into<00:14:03.720><c> their</c><00:14:03.840><c> Word</c><00:14:04.040><c> document</c><00:14:04.440><c> that</c><00:14:04.560><c> they're</c>

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into their Word document that they're
 

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into their Word document that they're
going<00:14:04.760><c> to</c><00:14:04.840><c> show</c><00:14:05.040><c> to</c><00:14:05.160><c> somebody</c><00:14:05.800><c> to</c><00:14:05.920><c> hopefully</c>

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going to show to somebody to hopefully
 

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going to show to somebody to hopefully
elicit<00:14:06.760><c> some</c><00:14:06.920><c> kind</c><00:14:07.080><c> of</c><00:14:07.200><c> action.</c>

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elicit some kind of action.
 

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elicit some kind of action.
And<00:14:08.800><c> that's</c><00:14:09.080><c> really</c><00:14:09.360><c> what,</c><00:14:09.920><c> you</c><00:14:10.040><c> know,</c><00:14:10.160><c> a</c><00:14:10.240><c> web</c>

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And that's really what, you know, a web
 

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And that's really what, you know, a web
application<00:14:11.000><c> is</c><00:14:11.240><c> too,</c><00:14:11.720><c> the</c><00:14:11.840><c> UI</c><00:14:12.160><c> of</c><00:14:12.280><c> it.</c>

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application is too, the UI of it.
 

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application is too, the UI of it.
And<00:14:13.720><c> so,</c><00:14:14.200><c> H</c><00:14:14.440><c> Lisp</c><00:14:14.720><c> is</c><00:14:15.040><c> that</c><00:14:15.440><c> part</c><00:14:15.720><c> of</c><00:14:15.800><c> it,</c><00:14:16.360><c> the</c>

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And so, H Lisp is that part of it, the
 

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And so, H Lisp is that part of it, the
the<00:14:16.640><c> charting</c><00:14:17.120><c> part.</c>

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the charting part.
 

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the charting part.
So,<00:14:18.480><c> HTML,</c>

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So, HTML,
 

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So, HTML,
uh<00:14:20.320><c> when</c><00:14:20.480><c> you</c><00:14:20.560><c> load</c><00:14:20.760><c> index.html</c><00:14:21.600><c> into</c><00:14:21.760><c> a</c>

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uh when you load index.html into a
 

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uh when you load index.html into a
browser,<00:14:22.320><c> the</c><00:14:22.400><c> browser</c><00:14:22.920><c> normally</c><00:14:23.400><c> reads</c><00:14:23.760><c> a</c>

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browser, the browser normally reads a
 

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browser, the browser normally reads a
bunch<00:14:24.120><c> of</c><00:14:24.320><c> HTML</c><00:14:24.680><c> markup</c>

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bunch of HTML markup
 

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bunch of HTML markup
and<00:14:26.000><c> loads</c><00:14:26.200><c> it</c><00:14:26.280><c> into</c><00:14:26.440><c> the</c><00:14:26.520><c> DOM.</c>

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and loads it into the DOM.
 

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and loads it into the DOM.
But,<00:14:28.800><c> this</c><00:14:29.040><c> HTML</c><00:14:29.600><c> is</c><00:14:29.760><c> already</c><00:14:30.200><c> a</c><00:14:30.280><c> programming</c>

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But, this HTML is already a programming
 

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But, this HTML is already a programming
language.<00:14:31.640><c> It's</c><00:14:31.760><c> not</c><00:14:31.880><c> a</c><00:14:31.920><c> very</c><00:14:32.080><c> good</c><00:14:32.240><c> one,</c><00:14:32.560><c> but</c>

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language. It's not a very good one, but
 

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language. It's not a very good one, but
it<00:14:33.000><c> definitely</c><00:14:33.520><c> is.</c><00:14:34.320><c> Like,</c><00:14:34.480><c> the</c><00:14:34.560><c> browser</c><00:14:34.920><c> has</c>

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it definitely is. Like, the browser has
 

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it definitely is. Like, the browser has
to<00:14:35.200><c> parse</c><00:14:35.520><c> this</c><00:14:35.720><c> HTML</c><00:14:36.160><c> markup,</c><00:14:36.640><c> which</c><00:14:36.839><c> is</c><00:14:37.000><c> kind</c>

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to parse this HTML markup, which is kind
 

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to parse this HTML markup, which is kind
of<00:14:37.360><c> weird,</c><00:14:37.760><c> and</c><00:14:37.880><c> then</c><00:14:38.320><c> it</c><00:14:38.400><c> has</c><00:14:38.520><c> to</c><00:14:38.600><c> build</c><00:14:38.800><c> a</c>

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of weird, and then it has to build a
 

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of weird, and then it has to build a
tree<00:14:39.240><c> and</c><00:14:39.360><c> it</c><00:14:39.400><c> has</c><00:14:39.520><c> to</c><00:14:39.640><c> walk</c><00:14:39.880><c> the</c><00:14:40.000><c> tree,</c><00:14:40.440><c> create</c>

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tree and it has to walk the tree, create
 

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tree and it has to walk the tree, create
DOM<00:14:41.000><c> elements,</c><00:14:41.960><c> and</c><00:14:42.600><c> uh</c><00:14:42.680><c> you</c><00:14:42.760><c> know,</c><00:14:42.880><c> put</c><00:14:43.080><c> them</c>

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DOM elements, and uh you know, put them
 

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DOM elements, and uh you know, put them
in<00:14:43.280><c> the</c><00:14:43.360><c> DOM.</c>

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in the DOM.
 

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in the DOM.
And<00:14:45.560><c> so,</c><00:14:46.360><c> what's,</c><00:14:47.320><c> I</c><00:14:47.360><c> mean,</c><00:14:47.560><c> luckily,</c><00:14:48.000><c> thank</c>

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And so, what's, I mean, luckily, thank
 

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And so, what's, I mean, luckily, thank
God,

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God,
 

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God,
uh

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uh
 

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uh
well,<00:14:50.760><c> sorry.</c><00:14:51.200><c> So,</c>

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well, sorry. So,
 

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well, sorry. So,
unfortunately,<00:14:53.760><c> uh</c><00:14:53.880><c> it</c><00:14:53.960><c> doesn't</c><00:14:54.200><c> have</c><00:14:54.320><c> a</c>

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unfortunately, uh it doesn't have a
 

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unfortunately, uh it doesn't have a
means<00:14:54.600><c> of</c><00:14:54.680><c> abstraction.</c><00:14:55.320><c> So,</c><00:14:55.440><c> there's</c><00:14:55.600><c> no</c><00:14:55.720><c> way</c>

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means of abstraction. So, there's no way
 

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means of abstraction. So, there's no way
to<00:14:55.920><c> define</c><00:14:56.320><c> something</c><00:14:56.600><c> new</c><00:14:56.920><c> in</c><00:14:57.040><c> HTML</c><00:14:57.480><c> markup.</c>

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to define something new in HTML markup.
 

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to define something new in HTML markup.
There's<00:14:59.040><c> no</c><00:14:59.160><c> access</c><00:14:59.480><c> to</c><00:14:59.600><c> the</c><00:14:59.680><c> JavaScript</c>

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There's no access to the JavaScript
 

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There's no access to the JavaScript
environment,<00:15:01.120><c> uh</c><00:15:01.320><c> which</c><00:15:01.520><c> was</c><00:15:01.720><c> kind</c><00:15:01.960><c> of</c><00:15:02.120><c> bolted</c>

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environment, uh which was kind of bolted
 

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environment, uh which was kind of bolted
on<00:15:02.680><c> after</c><00:15:03.000><c> HTML</c><00:15:03.440><c> already</c><00:15:03.720><c> existed.</c><00:15:04.800><c> So,</c><00:15:05.080><c> you</c>

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on after HTML already existed. So, you
 

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on after HTML already existed. So, you
can<00:15:05.320><c> create</c><00:15:05.600><c> all</c><00:15:05.680><c> this</c><00:15:05.839><c> stuff</c><00:15:06.080><c> in</c><00:15:06.160><c> the</c><00:15:06.240><c> DOM,</c>

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can create all this stuff in the DOM,
 

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can create all this stuff in the DOM,
but<00:15:07.760><c> there's</c><00:15:07.960><c> no</c><00:15:08.320><c> real</c><00:15:08.600><c> linkage</c><00:15:09.200><c> to</c><00:15:09.600><c> the</c>

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but there's no real linkage to the
 

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but there's no real linkage to the
dynamic<00:15:10.160><c> environment,</c><00:15:10.880><c> JavaScript,</c><00:15:11.600><c> and</c>

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dynamic environment, JavaScript, and
 

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dynamic environment, JavaScript, and
there<00:15:11.800><c> are</c><00:15:11.839><c> no</c><00:15:11.960><c> scopes.</c><00:15:12.839><c> So,</c><00:15:12.960><c> that</c><00:15:13.120><c> means</c><00:15:13.400><c> that</c>

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there are no scopes. So, that means that
 

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there are no scopes. So, that means that
you<00:15:13.640><c> just</c><00:15:13.960><c> are</c><00:15:14.040><c> basically</c><00:15:14.480><c> dumping</c><00:15:14.880><c> this</c>

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you just are basically dumping this
 

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you just are basically dumping this
everything<00:15:15.960><c> into</c><00:15:16.120><c> this</c><00:15:16.280><c> global</c><00:15:16.640><c> tree</c><00:15:17.320><c> that</c>

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everything into this global tree that
 

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everything into this global tree that
you<00:15:17.520><c> then</c><00:15:17.720><c> have</c><00:15:18.000><c> to</c>

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you then have to
 

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you then have to
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fish around in using selectors or
 

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fish around in using selectors or
something<00:15:21.320><c> to</c><00:15:21.520><c> find</c><00:15:21.760><c> things.</c>

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something to find things.
 

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something to find things.
But<00:15:24.240><c> thank</c><00:15:24.440><c> God,</c>

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But thank God,
 

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But thank God,
HTML<00:15:26.480><c> is</c><00:15:26.760><c> kind</c><00:15:27.000><c> of</c><00:15:27.120><c> lispy,</c><00:15:28.160><c> so</c><00:15:29.240><c> uh</c><00:15:30.040><c> you</c><00:15:30.160><c> know</c>

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HTML is kind of lispy, so uh you know
 

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HTML is kind of lispy, so uh you know
what<00:15:30.400><c> to</c><00:15:30.520><c> do.</c>

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what to do.
 

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what to do.
Um

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Um
 

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Um
these<00:15:33.400><c> this</c><00:15:33.600><c> HTML</c><00:15:34.080><c> markup</c><00:15:34.440><c> over</c><00:15:34.600><c> here,</c><00:15:35.520><c> you</c>

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these this HTML markup over here, you
 

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these this HTML markup over here, you
can<00:15:35.800><c> see</c><00:15:35.960><c> that</c><00:15:36.120><c> it's</c><00:15:36.520><c> syntactically</c>

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can see that it's syntactically
 

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can see that it's syntactically
equivalent<00:15:38.280><c> to</c><00:15:38.520><c> this</c><00:15:38.720><c> Lisp</c><00:15:39.200><c> markup.</c><00:15:39.720><c> I</c><00:15:39.760><c> mean,</c>

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equivalent to this Lisp markup. I mean,
 

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equivalent to this Lisp markup. I mean,
people<00:15:40.200><c> have</c><00:15:40.320><c> suggested</c><00:15:40.920><c> S-expressions</c>

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people have suggested S-expressions
 

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people have suggested S-expressions
instead<00:15:42.000><c> of,</c><00:15:42.480><c> you</c><00:15:42.600><c> know,</c><00:15:42.720><c> XML</c><00:15:43.800><c> syntax</c><00:15:44.360><c> for</c><00:15:44.480><c> a</c>

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instead of, you know, XML syntax for a
 

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instead of, you know, XML syntax for a
long<00:15:44.680><c> time.</c>

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long time.
 

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long time.
But<00:15:46.320><c> what's</c><00:15:46.480><c> interesting</c><00:15:46.920><c> in</c><00:15:47.000><c> ClojureScript</c>

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But what's interesting in ClojureScript
 

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But what's interesting in ClojureScript
is<00:15:47.800><c> that</c><00:15:48.080><c> you</c><00:15:48.160><c> can</c><00:15:48.280><c> actually</c><00:15:48.640><c> implement</c><00:15:49.120><c> these</c>

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is that you can actually implement these
 

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is that you can actually implement these
things,<00:15:49.720><c> implement</c><00:15:50.080><c> the</c><00:15:50.160><c> semantic</c><00:15:50.720><c> as</c><00:15:50.880><c> well.</c>

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things, implement the semantic as well.
 

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things, implement the semantic as well.
So,

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So,
 

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So,
uh<00:15:53.400><c> in</c><00:15:53.720><c> H</c><00:15:53.880><c> Lisp,</c><00:15:54.320><c> div</c><00:15:54.720><c> is</c><00:15:54.920><c> actually</c><00:15:55.320><c> a</c><00:15:55.400><c> function</c>

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uh in H Lisp, div is actually a function
 

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uh in H Lisp, div is actually a function
which<00:15:56.520><c> returns</c><00:15:57.120><c> a</c><00:15:57.160><c> DOM</c><00:15:57.480><c> element.</c>

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which returns a DOM element.
 

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which returns a DOM element.
And<00:16:00.600><c> uh</c><00:16:00.680><c> this</c><00:16:00.800><c> is</c><00:16:00.880><c> all</c><00:16:01.000><c> done</c><00:16:01.200><c> by</c><00:16:01.280><c> the</c><00:16:01.400><c> Hoplon</c>

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And uh this is all done by the Hoplon
 

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And uh this is all done by the Hoplon
compiler,<00:16:02.680><c> which</c><00:16:02.920><c> takes</c><00:16:03.760><c> uh</c><00:16:03.920><c> you</c><00:16:04.000><c> know,</c><00:16:04.320><c> .hl</c>

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compiler, which takes uh you know, .hl
 

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compiler, which takes uh you know, .hl
files,<00:16:05.560><c> and</c><00:16:05.720><c> for</c><00:16:05.880><c> each</c><00:16:06.000><c> one</c><00:16:06.120><c> of</c><00:16:06.200><c> those,</c><00:16:06.600><c> which</c>

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files, and for each one of those, which
 

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files, and for each one of those, which
is<00:16:07.360><c> uh</c><00:16:07.680><c> you</c><00:16:07.760><c> know,</c><00:16:07.920><c> a</c><00:16:07.960><c> page,</c><00:16:08.520><c> the</c><00:16:08.600><c> unit</c><00:16:08.800><c> of</c>

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is uh you know, a page, the unit of
 

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is uh you know, a page, the unit of
compilation<00:16:09.320><c> is</c><00:16:09.400><c> a</c><00:16:09.440><c> page,</c><00:16:10.360><c> uh</c><00:16:10.600><c> it</c><00:16:10.720><c> emits</c><00:16:10.960><c> an</c>

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compilation is a page, uh it emits an
 

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compilation is a page, uh it emits an
HTML<00:16:11.640><c> bootstrapping</c><00:16:12.360><c> kind</c><00:16:12.560><c> of</c><00:16:12.640><c> minimal</c><00:16:13.480><c> file</c>

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HTML bootstrapping kind of minimal file
 

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HTML bootstrapping kind of minimal file
just<00:16:14.080><c> to</c><00:16:14.200><c> load</c><00:16:14.680><c> a</c><00:16:14.800><c> JavaScript</c><00:16:15.320><c> file,</c><00:16:15.920><c> which</c>

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just to load a JavaScript file, which
 

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just to load a JavaScript file, which
contains<00:16:16.520><c> all</c><00:16:16.600><c> the</c><00:16:16.680><c> compiled</c><00:16:17.240><c> ClojureScript,</c>

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contains all the compiled ClojureScript,
 

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contains all the compiled ClojureScript,
and<00:16:18.840><c> the</c><00:16:18.920><c> DOM's</c><00:16:19.200><c> actually</c><00:16:19.480><c> built</c><00:16:19.680><c> at</c><00:16:19.800><c> run</c><00:16:20.000><c> time</c>

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and the DOM's actually built at run time
 

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and the DOM's actually built at run time
via<00:16:21.040><c> a</c><00:16:21.080><c> program.</c><00:16:22.240><c> And</c><00:16:22.360><c> the</c><00:16:22.440><c> front</c><00:16:22.600><c> end</c>

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via a program. And the front end
 

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via a program. And the front end
compiles<00:16:23.160><c> to</c><00:16:23.240><c> just</c><00:16:23.440><c> static</c><00:16:23.760><c> HTML</c><00:16:24.160><c> and</c>

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compiles to just static HTML and
 

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compiles to just static HTML and
JavaScript,<00:16:24.720><c> so</c><00:16:24.800><c> you</c><00:16:24.880><c> could</c><00:16:25.040><c> like</c><00:16:25.640><c> host</c><00:16:25.920><c> it</c><00:16:26.000><c> on</c>

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JavaScript, so you could like host it on
 

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JavaScript, so you could like host it on
S3<00:16:26.640><c> or</c><00:16:27.000><c> whatever.</c>

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S3 or whatever.
 

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S3 or whatever.
So,<00:16:28.480><c> this</c><00:16:28.600><c> is</c><00:16:28.680><c> an</c><00:16:28.760><c> example</c><00:16:29.200><c> page.</c>

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So, this is an example page.
 

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So, this is an example page.
Uh<00:16:30.480><c> this</c><00:16:30.600><c> is</c><00:16:30.680><c> kind</c><00:16:30.839><c> of</c><00:16:31.000><c> what,</c><00:16:31.800><c> you</c><00:16:31.880><c> know,</c><00:16:32.560><c> a</c>

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Uh this is kind of what, you know, a
 

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Uh this is kind of what, you know, a
page<00:16:32.920><c> normally</c><00:16:33.280><c> looks</c><00:16:33.520><c> like</c><00:16:33.680><c> simplified,</c><00:16:34.760><c> but</c>

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page normally looks like simplified, but
 

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page normally looks like simplified, but
uh

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uh
 

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uh
you<00:16:37.160><c> can</c><00:16:37.280><c> actually</c><00:16:37.720><c> also</c><00:16:38.000><c> do</c><00:16:38.200><c> this</c><00:16:38.400><c> in</c><00:16:38.720><c> HTML</c>

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you can actually also do this in HTML
 

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you can actually also do this in HTML
syntax.<00:16:40.080><c> The</c><00:16:40.240><c> Hoplon</c><00:16:40.560><c> compiler</c><00:16:41.560><c> just</c>

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syntax. The Hoplon compiler just
 

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syntax. The Hoplon compiler just
compiles<00:16:42.120><c> it</c><00:16:42.200><c> all</c><00:16:42.280><c> to</c><00:16:42.360><c> ClojureScript</c><00:16:42.839><c> anyway.</c>

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compiles it all to ClojureScript anyway.
 

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compiles it all to ClojureScript anyway.
So,<00:16:43.480><c> that's</c><00:16:43.640><c> cool.</c><00:16:43.800><c> You</c><00:16:43.880><c> could</c><00:16:44.040><c> use</c><00:16:44.200><c> your</c>

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So, that's cool. You could use your
 

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So, that's cool. You could use your
tools,<00:16:44.800><c> like</c><00:16:44.920><c> if</c><00:16:45.000><c> you</c><00:16:45.040><c> use</c><00:16:45.200><c> Haml</c><00:16:45.520><c> or</c>

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tools, like if you use Haml or
 

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tools, like if you use Haml or
something.

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something.
 

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something.
You<00:16:46.880><c> could</c><00:16:46.960><c> do</c><00:16:47.080><c> that.</c>

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You could do that.
 

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You could do that.
Uh<00:16:49.240><c> a</c><00:16:49.320><c> tricky</c><00:16:49.600><c> thing</c><00:16:50.080><c> about,</c><00:16:50.680><c> you</c><00:16:50.760><c> know,</c>

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Uh a tricky thing about, you know,
 

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Uh a tricky thing about, you know,
making<00:16:52.240><c> HTML</c><00:16:52.760><c> into</c><00:16:52.960><c> Lisp</c><00:16:53.320><c> or</c><00:16:53.400><c> Lisp</c><00:16:53.640><c> into</c><00:16:53.800><c> HTML</c>

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making HTML into Lisp or Lisp into HTML
 

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making HTML into Lisp or Lisp into HTML
is<00:16:55.120><c> uh</c><00:16:55.200><c> how</c><00:16:55.320><c> to</c><00:16:55.440><c> deal</c><00:16:55.520><c> with</c><00:16:55.680><c> attributes,</c><00:16:56.160><c> which</c>

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is uh how to deal with attributes, which
 

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is uh how to deal with attributes, which
is<00:16:56.360><c> sort</c><00:16:56.480><c> of</c><00:16:56.560><c> like</c><00:16:56.680><c> metadata</c><00:16:57.400><c> on</c><00:16:57.600><c> functions</c><00:16:58.120><c> in</c>

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is sort of like metadata on functions in
 

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is sort of like metadata on functions in
a<00:16:58.240><c> way,</c><00:16:59.040><c> uh</c><00:16:59.440><c> on</c><00:16:59.600><c> function</c><00:16:59.920><c> calls,</c><00:17:00.280><c> rather.</c><00:17:01.120><c> And</c>

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a way, uh on function calls, rather. And
 

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a way, uh on function calls, rather. And
so,<00:17:01.520><c> the</c><00:17:01.640><c> way</c><00:17:01.760><c> we</c><00:17:01.880><c> do</c><00:17:02.040><c> it</c><00:17:02.120><c> is</c><00:17:02.280><c> you</c><00:17:02.360><c> can</c><00:17:02.440><c> either</c>

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so, the way we do it is you can either
 

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so, the way we do it is you can either
pass<00:17:02.880><c> in</c><00:17:02.960><c> a</c><00:17:03.000><c> map</c><00:17:03.320><c> as</c><00:17:03.440><c> the</c><00:17:03.520><c> first</c><00:17:03.839><c> argument,</c><00:17:04.640><c> or</c>

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pass in a map as the first argument, or
 

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pass in a map as the first argument, or
just<00:17:05.120><c> some</c><00:17:05.319><c> keyword-value</c><00:17:06.400><c> pairs,</c><00:17:07.160><c> and</c><00:17:07.319><c> it'll</c>

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just some keyword-value pairs, and it'll
 

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just some keyword-value pairs, and it'll
It's<00:17:08.079><c> unambiguous</c><00:17:08.720><c> because</c><00:17:09.240><c> we</c><00:17:09.360><c> know</c><00:17:09.480><c> that</c>

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It's unambiguous because we know that
 

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It's unambiguous because we know that
keywords<00:17:10.120><c> can't</c><00:17:10.439><c> be</c><00:17:10.560><c> children</c><00:17:11.640><c> of</c><00:17:11.839><c> an</c>

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keywords can't be children of an
 

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keywords can't be children of an
element.

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element.
 

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element.
Uh<00:17:14.400><c> but</c><00:17:14.520><c> they</c><00:17:14.560><c> don't</c><00:17:14.760><c> have</c><00:17:14.880><c> to</c><00:17:14.959><c> be</c><00:17:15.040><c> strings.</c>

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Uh but they don't have to be strings.
 

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Uh but they don't have to be strings.
The<00:17:15.439><c> values</c><00:17:15.839><c> could</c><00:17:16.000><c> be</c><00:17:16.120><c> other</c><00:17:16.319><c> things,</c><00:17:16.640><c> which</c>

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The values could be other things, which
 

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The values could be other things, which
we'll<00:17:16.920><c> see</c><00:17:17.040><c> later.</c>

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we'll see later.
 

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we'll see later.
Uh<00:17:18.240><c> there's</c><00:17:18.439><c> no</c><00:17:18.560><c> boxing</c><00:17:19.000><c> or</c><00:17:19.120><c> indirection</c><00:17:19.760><c> or</c>

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Uh there's no boxing or indirection or
 

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Uh there's no boxing or indirection or
virtual<00:17:20.360><c> DOMs</c><00:17:20.680><c> or</c><00:17:20.760><c> anything</c><00:17:21.000><c> like</c><00:17:21.160><c> that.</c><00:17:21.439><c> When</c>

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virtual DOMs or anything like that. When
 

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virtual DOMs or anything like that. When
you<00:17:21.720><c> call</c><00:17:21.920><c> the</c><00:17:22.040><c> div</c><00:17:22.240><c> function,</c><00:17:23.079><c> you</c><00:17:23.199><c> get</c><00:17:23.640><c> a</c>

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you call the div function, you get a
 

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you call the div function, you get a
native<00:17:24.079><c> HTML</c><00:17:24.560><c> div</c><00:17:24.839><c> element</c><00:17:25.400><c> that</c><00:17:25.560><c> you</c><00:17:25.640><c> can</c><00:17:25.760><c> do</c>

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native HTML div element that you can do
 

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native HTML div element that you can do
stuff<00:17:26.199><c> to.</c>

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But<00:17:29.440><c> uh</c><00:17:29.640><c> the</c><00:17:29.760><c> elements</c><00:17:30.080><c> implement</c><00:17:30.760><c> uh</c><00:17:31.040><c> I</c><00:17:31.160><c> fun,</c>

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But uh the elements implement uh I fun,
 

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But uh the elements implement uh I fun,
which<00:17:32.320><c> is</c><00:17:32.520><c> the</c><00:17:32.640><c> protocol</c><00:17:33.120><c> to</c><00:17:33.240><c> make</c><00:17:33.400><c> something</c>

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which is the protocol to make something
 

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which is the protocol to make something
invocable<00:17:34.400><c> in</c><00:17:34.520><c> ClosureScript.</c><00:17:35.680><c> So,</c><00:17:36.200><c> you</c>

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invocable in ClosureScript. So, you
 

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invocable in ClosureScript. So, you
know,<00:17:36.480><c> on</c><00:17:36.560><c> the</c><00:17:36.760><c> the</c><00:17:36.960><c> invocation</c><00:17:37.560><c> semantic</c><00:17:38.000><c> of</c>

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know, on the the invocation semantic of
 

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know, on the the invocation semantic of
HTML<00:17:38.720><c> is</c><00:17:39.240><c> append</c><00:17:39.600><c> child</c><00:17:40.000><c> or</c><00:17:40.120><c> set</c><00:17:40.320><c> attribute.</c>

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HTML is append child or set attribute.
 

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HTML is append child or set attribute.
So,<00:17:41.400><c> we</c><00:17:41.560><c> implement</c><00:17:41.920><c> that,</c><00:17:42.160><c> so</c><00:17:42.280><c> you</c><00:17:42.400><c> can</c>

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So, we implement that, so you can
 

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So, we implement that, so you can
basically<00:17:42.960><c> use</c><00:17:43.320><c> you</c><00:17:43.400><c> can</c><00:17:43.520><c> construct</c><00:17:44.400><c> custom</c>

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basically use you can construct custom
 

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basically use you can construct custom
DOM<00:17:45.120><c> elements,</c><00:17:45.600><c> meaning</c><00:17:46.120><c> things</c><00:17:46.320><c> that</c><00:17:46.440><c> have</c>

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DOM elements, meaning things that have
 

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DOM elements, meaning things that have
the<00:17:46.600><c> same</c><00:17:46.840><c> semantic</c><00:17:47.480><c> as</c><00:17:48.000><c> uh</c><00:17:48.360><c> a</c><00:17:48.440><c> built-in</c>

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the same semantic as uh a built-in
 

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the same semantic as uh a built-in
uh<00:17:50.040><c> native</c><00:17:50.360><c> DOM</c><00:17:50.600><c> element</c><00:17:50.880><c> like</c><00:17:51.040><c> div</c><00:17:51.280><c> or</c><00:17:51.360><c> span,</c>

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uh native DOM element like div or span,
 

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uh native DOM element like div or span,
uh<00:17:52.720><c> but</c><00:17:52.840><c> you</c><00:17:52.920><c> can</c><00:17:53.040><c> construct</c><00:17:53.360><c> it</c><00:17:53.440><c> yourself</c><00:17:53.800><c> and</c>

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uh but you can construct it yourself and
 

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uh but you can construct it yourself and
then<00:17:54.000><c> use</c><00:17:54.120><c> it</c><00:17:54.200><c> in</c><00:17:54.280><c> markup.</c>

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then use it in markup.
 

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then use it in markup.
And<00:17:56.120><c> so,</c><00:17:56.200><c> this</c><00:17:56.480><c> suggests</c><00:17:57.600><c> uh</c>

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And so, this suggests uh
 

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And so, this suggests uh
you<00:17:58.280><c> know,</c><00:17:58.440><c> you</c><00:17:58.560><c> can</c><00:17:58.680><c> now</c><00:17:58.800><c> use</c><00:17:59.080><c> functions</c><00:17:59.920><c> in</c>

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you know, you can now use functions in
 

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you know, you can now use functions in
place<00:18:00.360><c> of</c><00:18:00.480><c> templates.</c><00:18:01.040><c> So,</c><00:18:01.200><c> no</c><00:18:01.320><c> more</c><00:18:01.480><c> printf</c>

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place of templates. So, no more printf
 

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place of templates. So, no more printf
or<00:18:02.640><c> printf-like</c><00:18:03.280><c> things.</c><00:18:04.040><c> You're</c><00:18:04.160><c> dealing</c>

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or printf-like things. You're dealing
 

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or printf-like things. You're dealing
with<00:18:04.680><c> actual</c><00:18:05.400><c> live</c><00:18:05.800><c> objects</c><00:18:06.320><c> that</c><00:18:06.480><c> you</c><00:18:06.560><c> can</c>

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with actual live objects that you can
 

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with actual live objects that you can
compose<00:18:07.800><c> uh</c><00:18:07.880><c> in</c><00:18:07.960><c> the</c><00:18:08.040><c> same</c><00:18:08.240><c> way</c><00:18:08.360><c> that</c><00:18:08.480><c> you</c>

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compose uh in the same way that you
 

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compose uh in the same way that you
compose<00:18:08.920><c> your</c><00:18:09.040><c> markup</c><00:18:09.360><c> originally.</c><00:18:10.280><c> And</c>

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compose your markup originally. And
 

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compose your markup originally. And
those<00:18:10.600><c> things</c><00:18:10.800><c> become</c><00:18:11.320><c> essentially</c><00:18:11.840><c> custom</c>

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those things become essentially custom
 

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those things become essentially custom
elements<00:18:12.920><c> that</c><00:18:13.040><c> can</c><00:18:13.160><c> then</c><00:18:13.400><c> be</c><00:18:13.560><c> in</c><00:18:13.680><c> your</c>

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elements that can then be in your
 

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elements that can then be in your
markup,<00:18:14.200><c> and</c><00:18:14.760><c> you</c><00:18:14.880><c> know,</c><00:18:15.000><c> somebody</c><00:18:15.280><c> can</c><00:18:15.440><c> use</c>

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markup, and you know, somebody can use
 

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markup, and you know, somebody can use
those<00:18:15.920><c> to</c><00:18:16.000><c> build</c><00:18:16.200><c> other</c><00:18:16.360><c> things.</c><00:18:17.400><c> So,</c><00:18:17.440><c> this</c><00:18:17.560><c> is</c>

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those to build other things. So, this is
 

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those to build other things. So, this is
an<00:18:17.720><c> example</c><00:18:18.160><c> of</c><00:18:18.200><c> that.</c><00:18:18.440><c> We're</c><00:18:18.520><c> making</c><00:18:18.760><c> a</c><00:18:18.840><c> foo</c>

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an example of that. We're making a foo
 

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an example of that. We're making a foo
element<00:18:19.440><c> here,</c>

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element here,
 

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element here,
which<00:18:20.440><c> takes</c><00:18:20.720><c> any</c><00:18:20.880><c> number</c><00:18:21.080><c> of</c><00:18:21.160><c> children</c>

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which takes any number of children
 

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which takes any number of children
and<00:18:23.080><c> makes</c><00:18:23.280><c> a</c><00:18:23.320><c> div</c><00:18:23.720><c> with</c><00:18:23.920><c> a</c><00:18:24.120><c> a</c><00:18:24.160><c> heading</c><00:18:24.440><c> element</c>

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and makes a div with a a heading element
 

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and makes a div with a a heading element
and<00:18:25.600><c> then</c><00:18:25.800><c> puts</c><00:18:26.040><c> the</c><00:18:26.120><c> children</c><00:18:26.480><c> in.</c>

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and then puts the children in.
 

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and then puts the children in.
So,

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So,
 

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So,
uh<00:18:29.560><c> sequences</c><00:18:30.000><c> get</c><00:18:30.160><c> spliced</c><00:18:30.560><c> in</c><00:18:30.720><c> as</c><00:18:30.880><c> children.</c>

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We<00:18:33.640><c> have</c><00:18:33.800><c> this</c><00:18:34.160><c> uh</c><00:18:34.240><c> this</c><00:18:34.360><c> little</c><00:18:34.520><c> macro</c><00:18:34.920><c> here,</c>

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We have this uh this little macro here,
 

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We have this uh this little macro here,
which<00:18:35.800><c> allows</c><00:18:36.200><c> you</c><00:18:36.280><c> because</c><00:18:36.600><c> there's</c><00:18:37.280><c> it</c>

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which allows you because there's it
 

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which allows you because there's it
supports<00:18:37.960><c> two</c><00:18:38.120><c> different</c><00:18:38.600><c> um</c><00:18:39.120><c> kinds</c><00:18:39.560><c> of</c>

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supports two different um kinds of
 

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supports two different um kinds of
attributes,

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attributes,
 

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attributes,
uh<00:18:41.200><c> two</c><00:18:41.360><c> different</c><00:18:41.680><c> syntaxes</c><00:18:42.360><c> kind</c><00:18:42.600><c> of.</c><00:18:43.240><c> Uh</c>

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uh two different syntaxes kind of. Uh
 

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uh two different syntaxes kind of. Uh
you<00:18:43.480><c> know,</c><00:18:43.600><c> the</c><00:18:43.680><c> key</c><00:18:43.880><c> value</c><00:18:44.720><c> uh</c><00:18:44.920><c> pairs</c><00:18:45.440><c> and</c><00:18:45.560><c> the</c>

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you know, the key value uh pairs and the
 

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you know, the key value uh pairs and the
map.<00:18:46.400><c> So,</c><00:18:46.560><c> in</c><00:18:46.680><c> order</c><00:18:46.800><c> to</c><00:18:46.920><c> deal</c><00:18:47.120><c> with</c><00:18:47.240><c> that</c>

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map. So, in order to deal with that
 

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map. So, in order to deal with that
efficiently,<00:18:48.240><c> we</c><00:18:48.360><c> have</c><00:18:48.480><c> this</c><00:18:48.600><c> little</c><00:18:48.760><c> macro</c>

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efficiently, we have this little macro
 

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efficiently, we have this little macro
that<00:18:49.280><c> just</c><00:18:49.520><c> collects</c><00:18:50.000><c> the</c><00:18:50.160><c> attributes</c><00:18:50.720><c> into</c><00:18:50.920><c> a</c>

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that just collects the attributes into a
 

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that just collects the attributes into a
map<00:18:51.440><c> and</c><00:18:51.520><c> the</c><00:18:51.600><c> children</c><00:18:52.000><c> into</c><00:18:52.200><c> a</c><00:18:52.240><c> seek,</c><00:18:53.160><c> and</c>

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map and the children into a seek, and
 

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map and the children into a seek, and
then<00:18:54.360><c> calls</c><00:18:54.640><c> your</c><00:18:54.760><c> body.</c><00:18:55.320><c> So,</c><00:18:56.080><c> th-</c><00:18:56.280><c> this</c><00:18:56.440><c> is</c><00:18:56.520><c> an</c>

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then calls your body. So, th- this is an
 

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then calls your body. So, th- this is an
example<00:18:57.000><c> of</c><00:18:57.080><c> that.</c><00:18:57.800><c> So,</c><00:18:57.920><c> here</c><00:18:58.120><c> we</c><00:18:58.240><c> have</c><00:18:58.520><c> a</c>

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example of that. So, here we have a
 

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example of that. So, here we have a
quick<00:18:58.960><c> list</c><00:18:59.680><c> uh</c><00:18:59.920><c> custom</c><00:19:00.280><c> element,</c><00:19:00.960><c> which</c>

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quick list uh custom element, which
 

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quick list uh custom element, which
basically<00:19:01.680><c> rolls</c><00:19:02.040><c> up</c><00:19:02.200><c> all</c><00:19:02.320><c> of</c><00:19:02.400><c> its</c><00:19:02.560><c> children</c>

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basically rolls up all of its children
 

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basically rolls up all of its children
into<00:19:03.240><c> an</c><00:19:03.360><c> unordered</c><00:19:03.720><c> list</c><00:19:04.000><c> and</c><00:19:04.120><c> wraps</c><00:19:04.440><c> them</c>

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into an unordered list and wraps them
 

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into an unordered list and wraps them
with<00:19:05.120><c> uh</c><00:19:05.400><c> list</c><00:19:05.640><c> items.</c>

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with uh list items.
 

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with uh list items.
And<00:19:07.200><c> uh</c><00:19:07.400><c> if</c><00:19:07.600><c> I</c><00:19:08.120><c> set</c><00:19:08.360><c> the</c><00:19:08.440><c> class</c><00:19:08.800><c> on</c><00:19:08.880><c> this</c><00:19:09.040><c> thing,</c>

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And uh if I set the class on this thing,
 

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And uh if I set the class on this thing,
it<00:19:09.400><c> gets</c><00:19:09.600><c> passed</c><00:19:09.920><c> down</c><00:19:10.120><c> to</c><00:19:10.240><c> the</c><00:19:10.320><c> unordered</c>

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it gets passed down to the unordered
 

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it gets passed down to the unordered
list

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list
 

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list
that<00:19:12.360><c> that</c><00:19:12.520><c> it</c><00:19:12.600><c> returns.</c><00:19:13.400><c> So,</c><00:19:13.480><c> this</c><00:19:13.600><c> is</c>

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that that it returns. So, this is
 

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that that it returns. So, this is
useful.

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useful.
 

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useful.
Uh

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Uh
 

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Uh
so,<00:19:16.280><c> every</c><00:19:16.480><c> page,</c><00:19:16.920><c> which</c><00:19:17.040><c> is</c><00:19:17.160><c> the</c><00:19:17.280><c> unit</c><00:19:17.480><c> of</c>

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so, every page, which is the unit of
 

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so, every page, which is the unit of
compilation<00:19:18.200><c> for</c><00:19:18.320><c> this</c><00:19:18.480><c> thing,</c>

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compilation for this thing,
 

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compilation for this thing,
uh

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uh
 

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uh
it<00:19:20.160><c> has</c><00:19:20.320><c> a</c><00:19:20.400><c> thing</c><00:19:20.720><c> sort</c><00:19:20.920><c> of</c><00:19:21.000><c> like</c><00:19:21.160><c> a</c><00:19:21.400><c> namespace</c>

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it has a thing sort of like a namespace
 

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it has a thing sort of like a namespace
declaration.<00:19:23.080><c> Um</c><00:19:23.440><c> except</c><00:19:23.760><c> instead</c><00:19:24.040><c> of</c>

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declaration. Um except instead of
 

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declaration. Um except instead of
specifying<00:19:24.680><c> the</c><00:19:24.760><c> namespace</c><00:19:25.240><c> name,</c><00:19:25.880><c> because</c>

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specifying the namespace name, because
 

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specifying the namespace name, because
the<00:19:26.800><c> page</c><00:19:27.160><c> is</c><00:19:27.280><c> the</c><00:19:27.440><c> end</c><00:19:27.680><c> result,</c><00:19:28.040><c> you're</c><00:19:28.120><c> not</c>

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the page is the end result, you're not
 

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the page is the end result, you're not
going<00:19:28.400><c> to</c><00:19:28.440><c> be</c><00:19:28.520><c> using</c><00:19:28.760><c> it</c><00:19:28.840><c> as</c><00:19:28.960><c> a</c><00:19:29.000><c> library,</c><00:19:29.800><c> so</c><00:19:30.280><c> uh</c>

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going to be using it as a library, so uh
 

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going to be using it as a library, so uh
you<00:19:30.680><c> actually</c><00:19:30.920><c> specify</c><00:19:31.440><c> where</c><00:19:31.800><c> you</c><00:19:31.960><c> want</c><00:19:32.400><c> the</c>

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you actually specify where you want the
 

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you actually specify where you want the
the<00:19:33.480><c> page</c><00:19:33.840><c> to</c><00:19:33.960><c> reside</c><00:19:34.400><c> in</c><00:19:34.480><c> your</c><00:19:34.600><c> document</c>

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the page to reside in your document
 

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the page to reside in your document
root.

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root.
 

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root.
Uh

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Uh
 

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Uh
and<00:19:38.520><c> H</c><00:19:38.720><c> list</c><00:19:39.160><c> uh</c><00:19:39.360><c> hoplon</c><00:19:39.800><c> refers</c><00:19:40.280><c> in</c><00:19:40.880><c> all</c><00:19:41.040><c> the</c>

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and H list uh hoplon refers in all the
 

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and H list uh hoplon refers in all the
things<00:19:41.360><c> like</c><00:19:41.520><c> div,</c><00:19:41.760><c> span,</c><00:19:42.160><c> and</c><00:19:42.280><c> all</c><00:19:42.360><c> the</c>

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things like div, span, and all the
 

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things like div, span, and all the
things<00:19:42.640><c> you</c><00:19:42.720><c> want,</c><00:19:42.920><c> so</c><00:19:43.000><c> you</c><00:19:43.080><c> don't</c><00:19:43.280><c> have</c><00:19:43.520><c> to,</c>

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things you want, so you don't have to,
 

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things you want, so you don't have to,
you<00:19:44.240><c> know,</c><00:19:44.840><c> painstakingly</c><00:19:45.640><c> refer</c><00:19:45.960><c> them</c><00:19:46.120><c> into</c>

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you know, painstakingly refer them into
 

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you know, painstakingly refer them into
your<00:19:46.400><c> namespace.</c>

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your namespace.
 

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your namespace.
Uh

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Uh
 

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Uh
may<00:19:48.520><c> I?</c>

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may I?
 

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may I?
Absolutely.

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Absolutely.
 

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Absolutely.
For<00:19:49.560><c> us</c><00:19:49.640><c> something</c><00:19:49.840><c> again.</c>

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For us something again.
 

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For us something again.
Please.

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Please.
 

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Please.
Um so,<00:19:51.160><c> Micha</c><00:19:51.400><c> pointed</c><00:19:51.680><c> out</c><00:19:51.800><c> that</c><00:19:52.600><c> we</c><00:19:52.800><c> include</c>

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Um so, Micha pointed out that we include
 

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Um so, Micha pointed out that we include
all<00:19:53.240><c> of</c><00:19:53.320><c> those</c><00:19:53.440><c> things</c><00:19:53.640><c> automatically</c><00:19:54.120><c> for</c>

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all of those things automatically for
 

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all of those things automatically for
you,<00:19:54.360><c> the</c><00:19:54.440><c> HTML5</c><00:19:55.360><c> in</c><00:19:55.440><c> particular,</c>

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you, the HTML5 in particular,
 

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you, the HTML5 in particular,
uh<00:19:57.080><c> sort</c><00:19:57.240><c> of</c><00:19:57.280><c> built-ins.</c><00:19:57.880><c> But,</c><00:19:58.000><c> we</c><00:19:58.080><c> also</c><00:19:58.240><c> have</c>

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uh sort of built-ins. But, we also have
 

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uh sort of built-ins. But, we also have
an<00:19:58.440><c> SVG</c><00:19:58.800><c> namespace,</c><00:19:59.480><c> and</c><00:20:00.080><c> some</c><00:20:00.280><c> of</c><00:20:00.360><c> our</c><00:20:00.480><c> more</c>

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an SVG namespace, and some of our more
 

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an SVG namespace, and some of our more
interesting<00:20:01.080><c> work</c><00:20:01.440><c> lately</c><00:20:01.800><c> has</c><00:20:01.920><c> been</c>

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interesting work lately has been
 

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interesting work lately has been
working<00:20:03.400><c> with</c><00:20:03.560><c> SVG</c><00:20:04.040><c> as</c><00:20:04.160><c> if</c><00:20:04.320><c> it</c><00:20:04.440><c> were</c><00:20:04.560><c> a</c><00:20:04.600><c> Lisp,</c>

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working with SVG as if it were a Lisp,
 

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working with SVG as if it were a Lisp,
which<00:20:05.440><c> has</c><00:20:05.560><c> been</c><00:20:06.200><c> pretty</c><00:20:06.400><c> interesting,</c><00:20:06.760><c> and</c>

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which has been pretty interesting, and
 

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which has been pretty interesting, and
that<00:20:06.960><c> stuff</c><00:20:07.160><c> is</c><00:20:07.280><c> in</c><00:20:07.400><c> hoplon.svg</c><00:20:08.360><c> namespace.</c>

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that stuff is in hoplon.svg namespace.
 

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that stuff is in hoplon.svg namespace.
So,<00:20:10.840><c> here's</c><00:20:11.040><c> a</c><00:20:11.120><c> sample</c><00:20:11.720><c> uh</c><00:20:11.840><c> page</c><00:20:12.080><c> declaration,</c>

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So, here's a sample uh page declaration,
 

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So, here's a sample uh page declaration,
and<00:20:13.280><c> you</c><00:20:13.320><c> can</c><00:20:13.440><c> see</c><00:20:13.520><c> the</c><00:20:13.640><c> refer</c><00:20:13.960><c> hoplon</c><00:20:14.400><c> on</c><00:20:14.440><c> the</c>

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and you can see the refer hoplon on the
 

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and you can see the refer hoplon on the
second<00:20:14.800><c> line</c><00:20:15.040><c> there.</c><00:20:15.800><c> That's</c><00:20:15.960><c> basically</c><00:20:16.280><c> like</c>

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second line there. That's basically like
 

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second line there. That's basically like
refer<00:20:16.720><c> closure.</c><00:20:17.080><c> If</c><00:20:17.160><c> there's</c><00:20:17.320><c> something</c><00:20:17.560><c> that</c>

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refer closure. If there's something that
 

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refer closure. If there's something that
hoplon's<00:20:18.080><c> bringing</c><00:20:18.360><c> in</c><00:20:18.480><c> that's,</c><00:20:18.880><c> you</c><00:20:19.000><c> know,</c>

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hoplon's bringing in that's, you know,
 

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hoplon's bringing in that's, you know,
annoying<00:20:19.560><c> you,</c><00:20:19.680><c> you</c><00:20:19.800><c> can</c><00:20:20.160><c> just</c><00:20:20.360><c> exclude</c><00:20:20.800><c> it,</c>

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annoying you, you can just exclude it,
 

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annoying you, you can just exclude it,
and<00:20:21.800><c> you</c><00:20:21.880><c> won't</c><00:20:22.040><c> see</c><00:20:22.120><c> the</c><00:20:22.240><c> warnings.</c><00:20:22.760><c> So,</c><00:20:22.920><c> like</c>

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and you won't see the warnings. So, like
 

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and you won't see the warnings. So, like
div<00:20:23.280><c> and</c><00:20:23.400><c> span</c><00:20:23.720><c> and</c><00:20:23.840><c> stuff.</c>

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DOM<00:20:27.280><c> basically,</c><00:20:28.240><c> the</c><00:20:28.320><c> document</c><00:20:28.720><c> object</c>

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DOM basically, the document object
 

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DOM basically, the document object
model,<00:20:29.400><c> is</c><00:20:29.760><c> an</c><00:20:29.960><c> IO</c><00:20:30.720><c> mechanism.</c>

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model, is an IO mechanism.
 

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model, is an IO mechanism.
Input<00:20:32.160><c> output.</c><00:20:32.960><c> That's</c><00:20:33.120><c> the</c><00:20:33.200><c> only</c><00:20:33.360><c> reason</c><00:20:33.680><c> it</c>

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Input output. That's the only reason it
 

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Input output. That's the only reason it
exists,<00:20:34.840><c> and</c>

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exists, and
 

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exists, and
uh<00:20:36.360><c> events</c><00:20:36.880><c> are</c><00:20:37.040><c> input.</c><00:20:37.480><c> In</c><00:20:37.520><c> other</c><00:20:37.680><c> words,</c><00:20:37.840><c> the</c>

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uh events are input. In other words, the
 

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uh events are input. In other words, the
user<00:20:38.120><c> clicks</c><00:20:38.400><c> on</c><00:20:38.560><c> something,</c>

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user clicks on something,
 

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user clicks on something,
and<00:20:40.800><c> uh</c><00:20:40.880><c> elements</c><00:20:41.240><c> and</c><00:20:41.320><c> their</c><00:20:41.400><c> properties</c>

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and uh elements and their properties
 

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and uh elements and their properties
provide<00:20:42.200><c> output.</c><00:20:42.680><c> You</c><00:20:42.760><c> know,</c><00:20:42.840><c> you</c><00:20:42.920><c> might</c><00:20:43.080><c> make</c>

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provide output. You know, you might make
 

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provide output. You know, you might make
something<00:20:43.480><c> red</c><00:20:43.680><c> by</c><00:20:43.800><c> changing</c><00:20:44.080><c> a</c><00:20:44.120><c> property,</c>

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something red by changing a property,
 

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something red by changing a property,
you<00:20:44.600><c> might</c><00:20:44.800><c> change</c><00:20:45.160><c> the</c><00:20:45.360><c> contents</c><00:20:45.800><c> of</c><00:20:45.880><c> a</c><00:20:45.920><c> text</c>

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you might change the contents of a text
 

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you might change the contents of a text
node.

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node.
 

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node.
But,<00:20:47.840><c> what's</c><00:20:48.000><c> interesting</c><00:20:48.280><c> about</c><00:20:48.520><c> this</c><00:20:48.840><c> is,</c>

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But, what's interesting about this is,
 

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But, what's interesting about this is,
if<00:20:49.280><c> you</c><00:20:49.320><c> think</c><00:20:49.480><c> about</c><00:20:49.680><c> it</c><00:20:49.720><c> in</c><00:20:49.800><c> terms</c><00:20:50.040><c> of</c><00:20:50.120><c> like</c>

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if you think about it in terms of like
 

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if you think about it in terms of like
one-way<00:20:50.640><c> data</c><00:20:50.880><c> flow,</c>

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one-way data flow,
 

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one-way data flow,
input<00:20:52.160><c> and</c><00:20:52.280><c> output</c><00:20:52.520><c> never</c><00:20:52.760><c> have</c><00:20:52.920><c> to</c><00:20:53.040><c> mix.</c><00:20:53.760><c> So,</c>

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input and output never have to mix. So,
 

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input and output never have to mix. So,
you<00:20:54.120><c> could,</c><00:20:55.000><c> you</c><00:20:55.120><c> know,</c><00:20:55.280><c> have</c><00:20:55.640><c> one</c>

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you could, you know, have one
 

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you could, you know, have one
uh

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uh
 

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uh
you<00:20:58.200><c> could</c><00:20:58.320><c> have</c><00:20:58.480><c> one</c><00:20:58.760><c> operation</c><00:20:59.280><c> that's</c>

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you could have one operation that's
 

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you could have one operation that's
setting

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setting
 

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setting
properties<00:21:01.280><c> without</c><00:21:01.640><c> knowing</c><00:21:01.960><c> at</c><00:21:02.080><c> all</c><00:21:02.360><c> about</c>

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properties without knowing at all about
 

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properties without knowing at all about
what<00:21:04.080><c> events</c><00:21:04.880><c> are</c><00:21:05.000><c> are</c><00:21:05.240><c> listened</c><00:21:05.680><c> to</c><00:21:05.920><c> and</c><00:21:06.400><c> vice</c>

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what events are are listened to and vice
 

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what events are are listened to and vice
versa.

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So,

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So,
 

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So,
basically<00:21:11.240><c> callbacks</c><00:21:12.120><c> trigger</c><00:21:12.480><c> updates</c><00:21:12.920><c> to</c>

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basically callbacks trigger updates to
 

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basically callbacks trigger updates to
input<00:21:13.360><c> cells.</c>

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input cells.
 

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input cells.
Meaning<00:21:14.840><c> I</c><00:21:14.880><c> click</c><00:21:15.120><c> on</c><00:21:15.200><c> a</c><00:21:15.280><c> button,</c><00:21:15.880><c> that</c><00:21:16.080><c> causes</c>

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Meaning I click on a button, that causes
 

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Meaning I click on a button, that causes
some<00:21:16.600><c> input</c><00:21:16.920><c> cell</c><00:21:17.480><c> to</c><00:21:17.600><c> change</c><00:21:17.800><c> its</c><00:21:17.920><c> value.</c><00:21:18.760><c> We</c>

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some input cell to change its value. We
 

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some input cell to change its value. We
swap<00:21:19.280><c> on</c><00:21:19.440><c> it</c><00:21:20.120><c> in</c><00:21:20.240><c> the</c><00:21:20.320><c> callback.</c>

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swap on it in the callback.
 

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swap on it in the callback.
And<00:21:22.400><c> that</c><00:21:23.080><c> eventually</c><00:21:23.680><c> may</c><00:21:23.960><c> or</c><00:21:24.120><c> may</c><00:21:24.280><c> not</c>

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And that eventually may or may not
 

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And that eventually may or may not
percolate<00:21:25.480><c> through</c><00:21:25.720><c> formula</c><00:21:26.120><c> cells</c>

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percolate through formula cells
 

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percolate through formula cells
to<00:21:27.720><c> cause</c><00:21:28.080><c> an</c><00:21:28.200><c> update</c><00:21:28.480><c> to</c><00:21:28.560><c> the</c><00:21:28.640><c> DOM.</c><00:21:29.320><c> In</c><00:21:29.400><c> other</c>

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to cause an update to the DOM. In other
 

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to cause an update to the DOM. In other
words,<00:21:29.960><c> some</c><00:21:30.280><c> DOM</c><00:21:30.520><c> element</c><00:21:31.160><c> might</c><00:21:31.360><c> be</c><00:21:32.240><c> hooked</c>

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words, some DOM element might be hooked
 

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words, some DOM element might be hooked
up<00:21:32.600><c> to</c><00:21:32.680><c> some</c><00:21:32.920><c> wired</c><00:21:33.200><c> up</c><00:21:33.280><c> to</c><00:21:33.360><c> some</c><00:21:33.920><c> to</c><00:21:34.080><c> some</c>

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up to some wired up to some to some
 

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up to some wired up to some to some
formula<00:21:34.720><c> cell,</c><00:21:35.520><c> and</c><00:21:36.360><c> that</c><00:21:36.600><c> formula</c><00:21:36.960><c> cell,</c><00:21:37.440><c> you</c>

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formula cell, and that formula cell, you
 

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formula cell, and that formula cell, you
know,<00:21:37.680><c> computes</c><00:21:38.120><c> that</c><00:21:38.240><c> it</c><00:21:38.320><c> should</c><00:21:38.440><c> be</c><00:21:38.560><c> red.</c>

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So,<00:21:41.480><c> here's</c><00:21:41.680><c> an</c><00:21:41.720><c> example</c><00:21:42.080><c> of</c><00:21:42.160><c> that.</c>

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So, here's an example of that.
 

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So, here's an example of that.
I'm<00:21:43.160><c> defining</c><00:21:43.560><c> a</c><00:21:43.600><c> cell</c><00:21:43.920><c> here,</c><00:21:44.360><c> an</c><00:21:44.480><c> input</c><00:21:44.840><c> cell</c>

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I'm defining a cell here, an input cell
 

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I'm defining a cell here, an input cell
called<00:21:45.520><c> clicks,</c><00:21:46.360><c> whose</c><00:21:46.480><c> initial</c><00:21:46.760><c> value</c><00:21:47.040><c> is</c>

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called clicks, whose initial value is
 

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called clicks, whose initial value is
zero.<00:21:47.480><c> This</c><00:21:47.600><c> is</c><00:21:47.680><c> how</c><00:21:47.760><c> many</c><00:21:47.920><c> times</c><00:21:48.200><c> I've</c>

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zero. This is how many times I've
 

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zero. This is how many times I've
clicked<00:21:48.560><c> on</c><00:21:48.640><c> this</c><00:21:48.800><c> button.</c>

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clicked on this button.
 

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clicked on this button.
Then<00:21:49.960><c> I</c><00:21:50.000><c> have</c><00:21:50.120><c> a</c><00:21:50.160><c> button,</c><00:21:51.080><c> and</c><00:21:51.840><c> I</c><00:21:51.960><c> have</c><00:21:52.600><c> the</c>

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Then I have a button, and I have the
 

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Then I have a button, and I have the
style<00:21:53.160><c> attribute,</c><00:21:54.280><c> which</c><00:21:54.520><c> is</c><00:21:54.880><c> being</c><00:21:55.160><c> hooked</c>

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style attribute, which is being hooked
 

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style attribute, which is being hooked
up<00:21:55.600><c> reactively</c><00:21:56.760><c> to</c><00:21:56.880><c> that</c><00:21:57.120><c> clicks</c><00:21:57.560><c> cell</c><00:21:57.920><c> over</c>

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up reactively to that clicks cell over
 

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up reactively to that clicks cell over
here.

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here.
 

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here.
So,<00:21:59.400><c> I'm</c><00:21:59.480><c> making</c><00:21:59.720><c> anonymous</c>

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So, I'm making anonymous
 

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So, I'm making anonymous
formula<00:22:01.160><c> cell</c><00:22:01.400><c> here,</c>

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formula cell here,
 

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formula cell here,
and<00:22:02.600><c> I</c><00:22:02.640><c> want</c><00:22:02.800><c> to</c><00:22:02.840><c> set</c><00:22:03.000><c> the</c><00:22:03.080><c> color</c><00:22:03.480><c> of</c><00:22:03.560><c> this</c>

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and I want to set the color of this
 

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and I want to set the color of this
thing<00:22:03.960><c> to</c><00:22:04.080><c> be</c><00:22:04.240><c> red</c><00:22:05.120><c> if</c><00:22:05.680><c> the</c><00:22:05.760><c> number</c><00:22:06.000><c> of</c><00:22:06.120><c> clicks</c>

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thing to be red if the number of clicks
 

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thing to be red if the number of clicks
is<00:22:06.480><c> even,</c><00:22:07.280><c> and</c><00:22:07.440><c> blue</c><00:22:07.880><c> if</c><00:22:08.000><c> it's</c><00:22:08.160><c> odd.</c>

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is even, and blue if it's odd.
 

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is even, and blue if it's odd.
Then<00:22:10.040><c> I</c><00:22:10.120><c> set</c><00:22:10.320><c> a</c><00:22:10.440><c> an</c><00:22:10.560><c> on-click</c><00:22:10.960><c> handler.</c>

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Then I set a an on-click handler.
 

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Then I set a an on-click handler.
So,<00:22:12.560><c> here</c><00:22:12.880><c> is</c><00:22:13.160><c> the</c><00:22:13.280><c> callback,</c><00:22:13.920><c> which</c><00:22:14.160><c> swaps</c><00:22:15.080><c> on</c>

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So, here is the callback, which swaps on
 

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So, here is the callback, which swaps on
clicks,<00:22:16.840><c> adding</c><00:22:17.120><c> one</c><00:22:17.280><c> to</c><00:22:17.400><c> it,</c><00:22:17.640><c> incrementing</c>

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clicks, adding one to it, incrementing
 

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clicks, adding one to it, incrementing
it.

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it.
 

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it.
And<00:22:19.120><c> then</c><00:22:19.240><c> I</c><00:22:19.280><c> set</c><00:22:19.480><c> the</c><00:22:19.560><c> text</c><00:22:20.160><c> of</c><00:22:20.280><c> this</c><00:22:20.440><c> button</c>

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And then I set the text of this button
 

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And then I set the text of this button
to<00:22:22.760><c> inform</c><00:22:23.120><c> us</c><00:22:23.240><c> how</c><00:22:23.320><c> many</c><00:22:23.520><c> times</c><00:22:24.160><c> it's</c><00:22:24.240><c> been</c>

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to inform us how many times it's been
 

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to inform us how many times it's been
clicked<00:22:24.720><c> on.</c>

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clicked on.
 

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clicked on.
And<00:22:27.000><c> it</c><00:22:27.080><c> rules.</c><00:22:27.640><c> Totally.</c><00:22:27.880><c> And</c><00:22:27.960><c> it</c><00:22:28.000><c> does</c>

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And it rules. Totally. And it does
 

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And it rules. Totally. And it does
things.

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things.
 

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things.
So,<00:22:30.880><c> what's</c><00:22:31.040><c> interesting</c><00:22:31.400><c> here</c><00:22:31.640><c> is</c><00:22:31.840><c> that</c><00:22:32.640><c> um</c>

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So, what's interesting here is that um
 

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So, what's interesting here is that um
you<00:22:33.240><c> know,</c><00:22:33.360><c> these</c><00:22:33.560><c> attributes,</c><00:22:34.200><c> basically</c>

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you know, these attributes, basically
 

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you know, these attributes, basically
they're<00:22:34.760><c> dispatching</c><00:22:35.240><c> on</c><00:22:35.360><c> value</c><00:22:35.720><c> here.</c><00:22:36.240><c> So,</c>

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they're dispatching on value here. So,
 

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they're dispatching on value here. So,
if<00:22:37.040><c> it</c><00:22:37.160><c> sees</c><00:22:37.360><c> a</c><00:22:37.440><c> cell</c><00:22:37.800><c> as</c><00:22:37.920><c> the</c><00:22:38.000><c> value,</c><00:22:38.720><c> it</c><00:22:38.880><c> knows</c>

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if it sees a cell as the value, it knows
 

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if it sees a cell as the value, it knows
hook<00:22:39.520><c> this</c><00:22:39.720><c> up</c><00:22:39.880><c> reactively</c><00:22:40.640><c> to</c><00:22:40.760><c> this</c><00:22:40.960><c> cell.</c>

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hook this up reactively to this cell.
 

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hook this up reactively to this cell.
If<00:22:42.240><c> it's</c><00:22:42.520><c> a</c><00:22:42.600><c> function,</c><00:22:43.440><c> then</c><00:22:43.560><c> it</c><00:22:43.680><c> says,</c><00:22:44.000><c> "Okay,</c>

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If it's a function, then it says, "Okay,
 

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If it's a function, then it says, "Okay,
this<00:22:44.440><c> is</c><00:22:44.480><c> a</c><00:22:44.560><c> callback,</c><00:22:45.080><c> so</c><00:22:45.200><c> I'm</c><00:22:45.280><c> going</c><00:22:45.400><c> to</c>

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this is a callback, so I'm going to
 

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this is a callback, so I'm going to
treat<00:22:45.680><c> this,</c><00:22:45.960><c> you</c><00:22:46.040><c> know,</c><00:22:46.120><c> I'm</c><00:22:46.160><c> going</c><00:22:46.280><c> to</c><00:22:46.360><c> look</c>

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treat this, you know, I'm going to look
 

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treat this, you know, I'm going to look
for<00:22:46.560><c> the</c><00:22:46.640><c> click</c><00:22:46.840><c> event."</c>

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for the click event."
 

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for the click event."
And

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And
 

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And
if<00:22:49.640><c> it's</c><00:22:50.400><c> neither</c><00:22:50.680><c> of</c><00:22:50.760><c> those,</c><00:22:51.000><c> if</c><00:22:51.080><c> it's</c><00:22:51.200><c> a</c>

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if it's neither of those, if it's a
 

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if it's neither of those, if it's a
string,<00:22:51.880><c> then</c><00:22:52.000><c> it</c><00:22:52.120><c> just</c><00:22:52.320><c> sets</c><00:22:52.560><c> the</c><00:22:52.680><c> attribute</c>

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string, then it just sets the attribute
 

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string, then it just sets the attribute
on<00:22:53.320><c> that</c><00:22:53.480><c> element.</c>

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Uh<00:22:57.040><c> the</c><00:22:57.160><c> attributes,</c>

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Uh the attributes,
 

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Uh the attributes,
these<00:22:58.840><c> special</c><00:22:59.200><c> attributes</c><00:22:59.560><c> can</c><00:22:59.680><c> be</c>

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these special attributes can be
 

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these special attributes can be
extended.<00:23:00.360><c> There</c><00:23:00.480><c> are</c><00:23:00.600><c> two</c><00:23:00.760><c> multimethods,</c><00:23:01.760><c> do</c>

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extended. There are two multimethods, do
 

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extended. There are two multimethods, do
bang<00:23:02.360><c> and</c><00:23:02.800><c> on!bang,</c><00:23:03.840><c> which</c><00:23:04.120><c> handle</c><00:23:04.640><c> input</c><00:23:04.920><c> and</c>

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bang and on!bang, which handle input and
 

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bang and on!bang, which handle input and
output.<00:23:05.400><c> So,</c><00:23:05.520><c> you</c><00:23:05.600><c> can</c><00:23:05.760><c> add</c><00:23:05.960><c> your</c><00:23:06.160><c> own</c><00:23:06.360><c> fancy</c>

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output. So, you can add your own fancy
 

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output. So, you can add your own fancy
thing.<00:23:07.000><c> So,</c><00:23:07.120><c> here's</c><00:23:07.360><c> an</c><00:23:07.480><c> example</c><00:23:07.960><c> of</c><00:23:08.080><c> like</c><00:23:08.640><c> the</c>

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thing. So, here's an example of like the
 

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thing. So, here's an example of like the
slide<00:23:09.280><c> attribute.</c><00:23:09.760><c> So,</c><00:23:09.840><c> you</c><00:23:09.880><c> can</c><00:23:10.000><c> make</c>

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slide attribute. So, you can make
 

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slide attribute. So, you can make
something<00:23:10.360><c> like</c><00:23:10.600><c> slide</c><00:23:10.960><c> up</c><00:23:11.080><c> or</c><00:23:11.160><c> down.</c><00:23:12.000><c> Or,</c><00:23:12.800><c> you</c>

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something like slide up or down. Or, you
 

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something like slide up or down. Or, you
know,<00:23:13.080><c> the</c><00:23:13.200><c> swipe</c><00:23:13.600><c> left</c><00:23:14.680><c> uh</c><00:23:15.160><c> event.</c><00:23:15.760><c> You</c><00:23:15.840><c> might</c>

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know, the swipe left uh event. You might
 

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know, the swipe left uh event. You might
hook<00:23:16.280><c> up</c><00:23:16.400><c> to</c><00:23:16.720><c> like</c><00:23:16.880><c> Hammer.js</c><00:23:17.440><c> or</c><00:23:17.520><c> something.</c>

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hook up to like Hammer.js or something.
 

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hook up to like Hammer.js or something.
So,<00:23:18.200><c> you</c><00:23:18.320><c> could</c><00:23:18.440><c> just</c><00:23:19.160><c> implement</c><00:23:19.600><c> that</c><00:23:20.600><c> with</c>

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So, you could just implement that with
 

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So, you could just implement that with
this<00:23:21.360><c> uh</c>

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this uh
 

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this uh
with<00:23:22.080><c> this</c><00:23:22.200><c> multimethod,</c><00:23:23.200><c> and</c><00:23:23.320><c> then</c><00:23:23.640><c> you</c><00:23:23.760><c> can</c>

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with this multimethod, and then you can
 

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with this multimethod, and then you can
use<00:23:24.240><c> those</c><00:23:24.480><c> things</c><00:23:24.760><c> as</c><00:23:24.880><c> if</c><00:23:25.040><c> they</c><00:23:25.160><c> were</c><00:23:25.280><c> already</c>

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use those things as if they were already
 

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use those things as if they were already
included<00:23:25.960><c> in</c><00:23:26.080><c> Hoplon.</c>

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included in Hoplon.
 

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included in Hoplon.
One<00:23:27.520><c> cool</c><00:23:27.680><c> thing</c><00:23:27.840><c> about</c><00:23:28.040><c> that</c><00:23:28.200><c> is</c><00:23:28.320><c> that</c><00:23:28.800><c> what</c>

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One cool thing about that is that what
 

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One cool thing about that is that what
he<00:23:29.280><c> just</c><00:23:29.400><c> showed</c><00:23:29.560><c> that</c><00:23:29.680><c> multimethod,</c><00:23:30.560><c> it</c><00:23:30.640><c> lets</c>

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he just showed that multimethod, it lets
 

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he just showed that multimethod, it lets
you<00:23:30.920><c> add</c><00:23:31.160><c> attributes</c><00:23:31.720><c> to</c><00:23:32.120><c> components</c><00:23:32.640><c> or</c>

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you add attributes to components or
 

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you add attributes to components or
object<00:23:33.280><c> custom</c><00:23:33.600><c> elements</c><00:23:33.920><c> that</c><00:23:34.040><c> you</c><00:23:34.120><c> don't</c>

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object custom elements that you don't
 

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object custom elements that you don't
own.<00:23:35.040><c> This</c><00:23:35.160><c> differs</c><00:23:35.440><c> from</c><00:23:35.920><c> Angular</c><00:23:36.320><c> where</c><00:23:36.480><c> you</c>

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own. This differs from Angular where you
 

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own. This differs from Angular where you
can<00:23:36.880><c> add</c><00:23:37.120><c> custom</c><00:23:37.400><c> attributes,</c><00:23:37.920><c> but</c><00:23:38.200><c> it</c>

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can add custom attributes, but it
 

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can add custom attributes, but it
involves<00:23:38.640><c> scopes</c><00:23:39.080><c> and</c><00:23:39.280><c> various</c><00:23:39.560><c> machinery.</c>

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involves scopes and various machinery.
 

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involves scopes and various machinery.
And<00:23:40.480><c> web</c><00:23:40.640><c> component</c><00:23:41.240><c> specs,</c><00:23:41.680><c> which</c><00:23:42.160><c> also</c>

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And web component specs, which also
 

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And web component specs, which also
require<00:23:43.360><c> that</c><00:23:43.480><c> you</c><00:23:43.600><c> own</c><00:23:43.760><c> the</c><00:23:43.880><c> element.</c><00:23:44.600><c> So,</c><00:23:44.720><c> in</c>

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require that you own the element. So, in
 

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require that you own the element. So, in
this<00:23:44.920><c> example,</c><00:23:45.280><c> he's</c><00:23:45.400><c> actually</c>

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this example, he's actually
 

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this example, he's actually
teaching<00:23:46.920><c> elements</c><00:23:47.440><c> that</c><00:23:47.560><c> had</c><00:23:47.720><c> no</c><00:23:47.880><c> idea</c><00:23:48.080><c> what</c>

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teaching elements that had no idea what
 

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teaching elements that had no idea what
swipe<00:23:48.680><c> or</c><00:23:48.800><c> any</c><00:23:48.960><c> of</c><00:23:49.000><c> this</c><00:23:49.120><c> stuff</c><00:23:49.360><c> is,</c><00:23:49.760><c> how</c><00:23:49.880><c> to</c>

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swipe or any of this stuff is, how to
 

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swipe or any of this stuff is, how to
respond<00:23:50.280><c> to</c><00:23:50.360><c> these</c><00:23:50.480><c> kinds</c><00:23:50.640><c> of</c><00:23:50.720><c> events</c><00:23:51.240><c> uh</c>

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respond to these kinds of events uh
 

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respond to these kinds of events uh
without<00:23:51.800><c> modifying</c><00:23:52.280><c> them.</c><00:23:52.560><c> So,</c><00:23:52.680><c> this</c><00:23:52.800><c> is</c><00:23:53.120><c> kind</c>

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without modifying them. So, this is kind
 

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without modifying them. So, this is kind
of<00:23:53.320><c> an</c><00:23:53.400><c> example</c><00:23:53.800><c> of</c><00:23:53.960><c> a</c>

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of an example of a
 

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of an example of a
What's<00:23:55.320><c> that</c><00:23:55.480><c> like</c><00:23:56.200><c> problem?</c>

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What's that like problem?
 

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What's that like problem?
The<00:23:58.360><c> expression</c><00:23:58.720><c> problem.</c><00:23:59.160><c> Yes.</c>

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The expression problem. Yes.
 

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The expression problem. Yes.
That<00:24:00.240><c> thing.</c>

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And<00:24:03.360><c> when</c><00:24:03.480><c> HTML</c><00:24:03.880><c> is</c><00:24:03.960><c> a</c><00:24:04.000><c> program,</c><00:24:04.800><c> which</c><00:24:05.000><c> it</c><00:24:05.120><c> is</c>

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And when HTML is a program, which it is
 

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And when HTML is a program, which it is
here,<00:24:06.000><c> you</c><00:24:06.120><c> can</c><00:24:06.200><c> do</c><00:24:06.400><c> all</c><00:24:06.520><c> kinds</c><00:24:06.800><c> of</c><00:24:07.120><c> neat</c>

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here, you can do all kinds of neat
 

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here, you can do all kinds of neat
things.<00:24:07.600><c> So,</c><00:24:07.760><c> here's</c><00:24:08.080><c> a</c><00:24:08.200><c> a</c><00:24:08.240><c> function</c><00:24:08.560><c> called</c>

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things. So, here's a a function called
 

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things. So, here's a a function called
defvalues,<00:24:09.360><c> which</c><00:24:09.520><c> is</c><00:24:09.600><c> basically</c><00:24:10.040><c> like</c><00:24:10.640><c> in</c>

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defvalues, which is basically like in
 

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defvalues, which is basically like in
let<00:24:11.000><c> you</c><00:24:11.080><c> can</c><00:24:11.200><c> destructure,</c><00:24:12.240><c> you</c><00:24:12.360><c> know,</c><00:24:12.480><c> the</c>

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let you can destructure, you know, the
 

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let you can destructure, you know, the
binding<00:24:13.000><c> form</c><00:24:13.400><c> and</c><00:24:13.520><c> the</c><00:24:13.600><c> expression.</c><00:24:14.120><c> So,</c>

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binding form and the expression. So,
 

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binding form and the expression. So,
this<00:24:14.360><c> is</c><00:24:14.440><c> basically</c><00:24:14.840><c> just</c><00:24:15.400><c> a</c><00:24:15.440><c> thing</c><00:24:15.600><c> that</c><00:24:15.720><c> does</c>

00:24:15.870 --> 00:24:15.880 align:start position:0%
this is basically just a thing that does
 

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this is basically just a thing that does
that,<00:24:16.080><c> but</c><00:24:16.160><c> it</c><00:24:16.280><c> defines</c><00:24:16.880><c> the</c><00:24:16.960><c> things</c><00:24:17.240><c> instead</c>

00:24:17.510 --> 00:24:17.520 align:start position:0%
that, but it defines the things instead
 

00:24:17.520 --> 00:24:20.110 align:start position:0%
that, but it defines the things instead
of<00:24:17.600><c> binding</c><00:24:17.960><c> them</c><00:24:18.640><c> locally.</c><00:24:19.680><c> So,</c><00:24:19.880><c> we</c><00:24:19.960><c> have</c><00:24:20.080><c> a</c>

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of binding them locally. So, we have a
 

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of binding them locally. So, we have a
function<00:24:20.400><c> called</c><00:24:20.600><c> tabify,</c><00:24:21.280><c> which</c><00:24:21.400><c> I'm</c><00:24:21.480><c> not</c>

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function called tabify, which I'm not
 

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function called tabify, which I'm not
showing<00:24:21.880><c> here,</c><00:24:22.320><c> but</c><00:24:22.480><c> basically</c><00:24:22.840><c> what</c><00:24:22.960><c> it</c><00:24:23.040><c> does</c>

00:24:23.190 --> 00:24:23.200 align:start position:0%
showing here, but basically what it does
 

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showing here, but basically what it does
is<00:24:23.320><c> it</c><00:24:23.440><c> takes</c><00:24:24.080><c> pairs</c><00:24:24.440><c> of</c><00:24:24.560><c> things.</c><00:24:25.480><c> And</c><00:24:25.600><c> if</c><00:24:25.680><c> you</c>

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is it takes pairs of things. And if you
 

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is it takes pairs of things. And if you
think<00:24:25.880><c> about</c><00:24:26.120><c> tabs</c><00:24:26.640><c> like</c><00:24:27.040><c> on</c><00:24:27.200><c> the</c><00:24:27.280><c> web,</c><00:24:27.880><c> you</c>

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think about tabs like on the web, you
 

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think about tabs like on the web, you
click<00:24:28.200><c> on</c><00:24:28.320><c> something</c><00:24:28.720><c> and</c><00:24:28.840><c> it</c><00:24:28.960><c> shows</c><00:24:29.520><c> content</c>

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click on something and it shows content
 

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click on something and it shows content
certain<00:24:30.360><c> content</c><00:24:30.760><c> and</c><00:24:30.880><c> hides</c><00:24:31.120><c> other</c><00:24:31.280><c> content,</c>

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certain content and hides other content,
 

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certain content and hides other content,
right?<00:24:31.960><c> And</c><00:24:32.040><c> then</c><00:24:32.160><c> you</c><00:24:32.280><c> click</c><00:24:32.560><c> on</c><00:24:32.680><c> another</c>

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right? And then you click on another
 

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right? And then you click on another
thing<00:24:33.720><c> and</c><00:24:33.840><c> it</c><00:24:33.960><c> shows</c><00:24:34.280><c> the</c><00:24:34.360><c> content</c>

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thing and it shows the content
 

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thing and it shows the content
associated<00:24:35.240><c> with</c><00:24:35.400><c> that</c><00:24:36.480><c> tab,</c><00:24:37.080><c> right?</c><00:24:37.880><c> So,</c>

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associated with that tab, right? So,
 

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associated with that tab, right? So,
there's<00:24:38.200><c> like</c><00:24:38.560><c> a</c>

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there's like a
 

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there's like a
an<00:24:39.560><c> interesting</c><00:24:40.640><c> way</c><00:24:40.800><c> to</c><00:24:40.920><c> generalize</c><00:24:41.520><c> this.</c>

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an interesting way to generalize this.
 

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an interesting way to generalize this.
So,<00:24:42.200><c> if</c><00:24:42.280><c> you</c><00:24:42.360><c> imagine</c><00:24:42.840><c> that</c><00:24:43.560><c> the</c><00:24:43.720><c> real</c>

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So, if you imagine that the real
 

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So, if you imagine that the real
abstraction<00:24:44.920><c> here</c><00:24:45.240><c> is</c><00:24:46.000><c> a</c><00:24:46.080><c> number</c><00:24:46.400><c> of</c><00:24:46.520><c> triggers</c>

00:24:47.070 --> 00:24:47.080 align:start position:0%
abstraction here is a number of triggers
 

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abstraction here is a number of triggers
and<00:24:47.200><c> a</c><00:24:47.240><c> number</c><00:24:47.520><c> of</c><00:24:47.640><c> contents,</c><00:24:48.600><c> and</c><00:24:48.840><c> you</c><00:24:48.920><c> just</c>

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and a number of contents, and you just
 

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and a number of contents, and you just
want<00:24:49.160><c> to</c><00:24:49.240><c> set</c><00:24:49.360><c> a</c><00:24:49.400><c> relationship</c><00:24:49.880><c> between</c><00:24:50.160><c> these</c>

00:24:50.310 --> 00:24:50.320 align:start position:0%
want to set a relationship between these
 

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want to set a relationship between these
things<00:24:50.600><c> that</c><00:24:50.720><c> when</c><00:24:50.840><c> you</c><00:24:50.920><c> click</c><00:24:51.120><c> on</c><00:24:51.200><c> a</c><00:24:51.240><c> trigger,</c>

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things that when you click on a trigger,
 

00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:53.790 align:start position:0%
things that when you click on a trigger,
the<00:24:52.160><c> the</c><00:24:52.280><c> associated</c><00:24:52.720><c> content</c><00:24:53.160><c> shows</c><00:24:53.400><c> itself</c>

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the the associated content shows itself
 

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the the associated content shows itself
and<00:24:53.920><c> the</c><00:24:54.000><c> other</c><00:24:54.160><c> contents</c><00:24:54.560><c> hide</c><00:24:54.760><c> themselves.</c>

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and the other contents hide themselves.
 

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and the other contents hide themselves.
And<00:24:57.000><c> uh</c><00:24:57.120><c> when</c><00:24:57.240><c> you</c><00:24:57.320><c> click</c><00:24:57.520><c> on</c><00:24:57.600><c> the</c><00:24:57.680><c> other</c>

00:24:57.830 --> 00:24:57.840 align:start position:0%
And uh when you click on the other
 

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And uh when you click on the other
trigger

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trigger
 

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trigger
you<00:24:59.240><c> know</c><00:25:00.000><c> same</c><00:25:00.160><c> thing</c><00:25:00.360><c> happens.</c><00:25:01.000><c> So</c><00:25:01.160><c> here</c><00:25:01.400><c> we</c>

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you know same thing happens. So here we
 

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you know same thing happens. So here we
have

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have
 

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have
basically<00:25:03.200><c> we</c><00:25:03.320><c> call</c><00:25:03.640><c> this</c><00:25:03.880><c> this</c><00:25:04.080><c> function</c><00:25:04.440><c> to</c>

00:25:04.550 --> 00:25:04.560 align:start position:0%
basically we call this this function to
 

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basically we call this this function to
tabify<00:25:05.080><c> these</c><00:25:05.320><c> things,</c><00:25:05.880><c> but</c><00:25:06.000><c> it</c><00:25:06.080><c> returns</c><00:25:06.480><c> them</c>

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tabify these things, but it returns them
 

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tabify these things, but it returns them
back.<00:25:06.960><c> It</c><00:25:07.080><c> doesn't</c><00:25:07.320><c> compose</c><00:25:07.720><c> them.</c>

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back. It doesn't compose them.
 

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back. It doesn't compose them.
And<00:25:09.080><c> this</c><00:25:09.200><c> is</c><00:25:09.320><c> an</c><00:25:09.400><c> interesting</c><00:25:09.800><c> thing</c><00:25:10.040><c> because</c>

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And this is an interesting thing because
 

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And this is an interesting thing because
we've<00:25:11.400><c> been</c><00:25:11.600><c> able</c><00:25:11.920><c> to</c><00:25:12.520><c> decouple</c>

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we've been able to decouple
 

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we've been able to decouple
the<00:25:13.880><c> relationship</c><00:25:14.480><c> between</c><00:25:14.800><c> the</c><00:25:14.880><c> things</c><00:25:15.320><c> and</c>

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the relationship between the things and
 

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the relationship between the things and
their<00:25:15.560><c> internal</c><00:25:15.960><c> state</c><00:25:16.760><c> from</c><00:25:17.200><c> their</c>

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their internal state from their
 

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their internal state from their
composition<00:25:17.960><c> in</c><00:25:18.040><c> the</c><00:25:18.120><c> DOM.</c>

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composition in the DOM.
 

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composition in the DOM.
So<00:25:19.680><c> the</c><00:25:19.880><c> UI</c><00:25:20.200><c> guy</c><00:25:20.560><c> can</c><00:25:20.880><c> use</c><00:25:21.200><c> this</c><00:25:21.600><c> this</c><00:25:21.840><c> function</c>

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So the UI guy can use this this function
 

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So the UI guy can use this this function
to<00:25:22.680><c> create</c><00:25:22.960><c> the</c><00:25:23.080><c> tabs</c><00:25:23.720><c> kind</c><00:25:23.920><c> of</c><00:25:24.000><c> relationship</c>

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to create the tabs kind of relationship
 

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to create the tabs kind of relationship
between<00:25:24.800><c> elements,</c><00:25:25.600><c> but</c><00:25:25.720><c> he</c><00:25:25.840><c> might</c><00:25:26.000><c> not</c><00:25:26.200><c> want</c>

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between elements, but he might not want
 

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between elements, but he might not want
to<00:25:26.640><c> put</c><00:25:26.840><c> them</c><00:25:26.960><c> into</c><00:25:27.160><c> an</c><00:25:27.240><c> unordered</c><00:25:27.560><c> list</c><00:25:27.800><c> here</c>

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to put them into an unordered list here
 

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to put them into an unordered list here
like<00:25:28.600><c> I</c><00:25:28.680><c> did.</c><00:25:28.880><c> He</c><00:25:29.000><c> might</c><00:25:29.160><c> want</c><00:25:29.320><c> to</c><00:25:29.400><c> put</c><00:25:29.640><c> like</c>

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like I did. He might want to put like
 

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like I did. He might want to put like
one<00:25:30.040><c> trigger</c><00:25:30.360><c> way</c><00:25:30.520><c> over</c><00:25:30.720><c> here</c><00:25:31.000><c> and</c><00:25:31.120><c> one</c>

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one trigger way over here and one
 

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one trigger way over here and one
trigger<00:25:31.520><c> way</c><00:25:31.720><c> over</c><00:25:31.920><c> here,</c><00:25:32.640><c> and</c><00:25:32.720><c> it</c><00:25:32.800><c> might</c><00:25:32.920><c> not</c>

00:25:33.030 --> 00:25:33.040 align:start position:0%
trigger way over here, and it might not
 

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trigger way over here, and it might not
look<00:25:33.200><c> like</c><00:25:33.360><c> tabs</c><00:25:33.640><c> at</c><00:25:33.760><c> all.</c><00:25:34.080><c> It's</c><00:25:34.240><c> just,</c><00:25:34.840><c> you</c>

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look like tabs at all. It's just, you
 

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look like tabs at all. It's just, you
know,<00:25:35.080><c> essentially</c><00:25:35.680><c> a</c><00:25:35.760><c> tab-like</c>

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know, essentially a tab-like
 

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know, essentially a tab-like
relationship,<00:25:37.360><c> and</c><00:25:37.480><c> he</c><00:25:37.560><c> can</c><00:25:37.640><c> express</c><00:25:38.000><c> that,</c>

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relationship, and he can express that,
 

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relationship, and he can express that,
and<00:25:38.320><c> he</c><00:25:38.400><c> can</c><00:25:38.520><c> make</c><00:25:38.680><c> his</c><00:25:38.840><c> own</c><00:25:39.480><c> custom</c><00:25:39.840><c> elements</c>

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and he can make his own custom elements
 

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and he can make his own custom elements
that,<00:25:41.040><c> you</c><00:25:41.160><c> know,</c><00:25:41.320><c> use</c><00:25:41.560><c> this</c><00:25:41.760><c> as</c><00:25:41.880><c> an</c>

00:25:41.950 --> 00:25:41.960 align:start position:0%
that, you know, use this as an
 

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that, you know, use this as an
underlying<00:25:42.800><c> lower-level</c><00:25:43.360><c> thing.</c><00:25:44.120><c> So</c><00:25:44.280><c> you</c><00:25:44.360><c> can</c>

00:25:44.510 --> 00:25:44.520 align:start position:0%
underlying lower-level thing. So you can
 

00:25:44.520 --> 00:25:46.110 align:start position:0%
underlying lower-level thing. So you can
progress<00:25:44.920><c> from</c><00:25:45.080><c> simple</c><00:25:45.400><c> things</c><00:25:45.800><c> to</c><00:25:45.920><c> more</c>

00:25:46.110 --> 00:25:46.120 align:start position:0%
progress from simple things to more
 

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progress from simple things to more
complex<00:25:47.160><c> in</c><00:25:47.320><c> a</c><00:25:47.680><c> in</c><00:25:47.760><c> a</c><00:25:47.800><c> nice</c><00:25:48.040><c> way.</c>

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complex in a in a nice way.
 

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complex in a in a nice way.
You<00:25:49.960><c> can</c><00:25:50.080><c> also</c><00:25:50.240><c> do</c><00:25:50.360><c> things</c><00:25:50.520><c> like</c><00:25:50.680><c> this.</c><00:25:51.040><c> So</c>

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You can also do things like this. So
 

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You can also do things like this. So
here,<00:25:51.920><c> a</c><00:25:52.000><c> lot</c><00:25:52.160><c> of</c><00:25:52.240><c> times</c><00:25:52.520><c> people</c><00:25:52.760><c> will</c><00:25:52.880><c> do</c>

00:25:52.990 --> 00:25:53.000 align:start position:0%
here, a lot of times people will do
 

00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:54.870 align:start position:0%
here, a lot of times people will do
like,<00:25:53.360><c> you</c><00:25:53.440><c> know,</c><00:25:53.600><c> div</c><00:25:54.040><c> and</c><00:25:54.200><c> give</c><00:25:54.320><c> it</c><00:25:54.400><c> a</c><00:25:54.440><c> class</c>

00:25:54.870 --> 00:25:54.880 align:start position:0%
like, you know, div and give it a class
 

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like, you know, div and give it a class
red,<00:25:55.240><c> and</c><00:25:55.360><c> that</c><00:25:55.480><c> means</c><00:25:55.680><c> that,</c><00:25:55.880><c> you</c><00:25:56.000><c> know,</c><00:25:56.120><c> it</c>

00:25:56.190 --> 00:25:56.200 align:start position:0%
red, and that means that, you know, it
 

00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:57.470 align:start position:0%
red, and that means that, you know, it
should<00:25:56.320><c> be</c><00:25:56.440><c> red,</c><00:25:56.680><c> all</c><00:25:56.760><c> the</c><00:25:56.840><c> things</c><00:25:57.080><c> with</c><00:25:57.200><c> class</c>

00:25:57.470 --> 00:25:57.480 align:start position:0%
should be red, all the things with class
 

00:25:57.480 --> 00:25:58.430 align:start position:0%
should be red, all the things with class
red.

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red.
 

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red.
And<00:25:58.800><c> but</c><00:25:59.240><c> that's</c><00:25:59.520><c> like</c><00:25:59.680><c> a</c><00:25:59.720><c> weird</c><00:26:00.120><c> kind</c><00:26:00.440><c> of,</c><00:26:00.640><c> you</c>

00:26:00.710 --> 00:26:00.720 align:start position:0%
And but that's like a weird kind of, you
 

00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:02.190 align:start position:0%
And but that's like a weird kind of, you
know,<00:26:00.840><c> that</c><00:26:01.080><c> that</c><00:26:01.280><c> CSS,</c><00:26:01.720><c> especially</c><00:26:02.040><c> with</c><00:26:02.160><c> the</c>

00:26:02.190 --> 00:26:02.200 align:start position:0%
know, that that CSS, especially with the
 

00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:04.070 align:start position:0%
know, that that CSS, especially with the
cascading,<00:26:02.720><c> is</c><00:26:02.800><c> like</c><00:26:02.920><c> a</c><00:26:03.000><c> weird</c><00:26:03.280><c> kind</c><00:26:03.520><c> of</c>

00:26:04.070 --> 00:26:04.080 align:start position:0%
cascading, is like a weird kind of
 

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cascading, is like a weird kind of
scoping<00:26:04.600><c> system</c><00:26:05.320><c> and</c><00:26:05.720><c> aspect-oriented</c>

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scoping system and aspect-oriented
 

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scoping system and aspect-oriented
programming.<00:26:07.360><c> You</c><00:26:07.440><c> know,</c><00:26:07.520><c> you're</c><00:26:07.640><c> setting</c><00:26:07.880><c> up</c>

00:26:07.990 --> 00:26:08.000 align:start position:0%
programming. You know, you're setting up
 

00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:09.870 align:start position:0%
programming. You know, you're setting up
a<00:26:08.040><c> scope</c><00:26:08.520><c> in</c><00:26:08.600><c> which,</c><00:26:09.160><c> you</c><00:26:09.240><c> know,</c><00:26:09.520><c> and</c><00:26:09.720><c> and</c>

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a scope in which, you know, and and
 

00:26:09.880 --> 00:26:11.390 align:start position:0%
a scope in which, you know, and and
really<00:26:10.120><c> the</c><00:26:10.440><c> the</c><00:26:10.600><c> purpose</c><00:26:10.960><c> of</c><00:26:11.080><c> it</c><00:26:11.160><c> is</c><00:26:11.280><c> to</c>

00:26:11.390 --> 00:26:11.400 align:start position:0%
really the the purpose of it is to
 

00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:14.190 align:start position:0%
really the the purpose of it is to
manipulate<00:26:11.920><c> properties</c><00:26:12.600><c> of</c><00:26:13.000><c> objects,</c><00:26:14.080><c> you</c>

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manipulate properties of objects, you
 

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manipulate properties of objects, you
know,<00:26:14.360><c> like</c><00:26:14.600><c> I</c><00:26:14.640><c> want</c><00:26:14.760><c> to</c><00:26:14.800><c> set</c><00:26:14.960><c> the</c><00:26:15.240><c> style.color</c>

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know, like I want to set the style.color
 

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know, like I want to set the style.color
property.

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property.
 

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property.
So<00:26:18.000><c> a</c><00:26:18.080><c> more</c><00:26:18.240><c> direct</c><00:26:18.920><c> and</c><00:26:19.240><c> powerful</c><00:26:19.680><c> way</c><00:26:19.880><c> is</c><00:26:20.040><c> to</c>

00:26:20.150 --> 00:26:20.160 align:start position:0%
So a more direct and powerful way is to
 

00:26:20.160 --> 00:26:22.630 align:start position:0%
So a more direct and powerful way is to
actually<00:26:20.440><c> define</c><00:26:20.800><c> a</c><00:26:20.840><c> thing</c><00:26:21.120><c> called</c><00:26:21.360><c> red</c><00:26:21.600><c> div.</c>

00:26:22.630 --> 00:26:22.640 align:start position:0%
actually define a thing called red div.
 

00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:24.510 align:start position:0%
actually define a thing called red div.
And<00:26:23.000><c> since</c><00:26:23.360><c> all</c><00:26:23.480><c> these</c><00:26:23.680><c> things</c><00:26:23.960><c> implement</c><00:26:24.440><c> I</c>

00:26:24.510 --> 00:26:24.520 align:start position:0%
And since all these things implement I
 

00:26:24.520 --> 00:26:26.630 align:start position:0%
And since all these things implement I
fun,<00:26:24.960><c> and</c><00:26:25.080><c> they're</c><00:26:25.200><c> all</c><00:26:25.320><c> invocable,</c>

00:26:26.630 --> 00:26:26.640 align:start position:0%
fun, and they're all invocable,
 

00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:29.310 align:start position:0%
fun, and they're all invocable,
we<00:26:27.040><c> can</c><00:26:27.120><c> just</c><00:26:27.320><c> use</c><00:26:27.520><c> that</c><00:26:27.960><c> in</c><00:26:28.040><c> the</c><00:26:28.120><c> DOM.</c><00:26:28.920><c> And</c><00:26:29.200><c> so</c>

00:26:29.310 --> 00:26:29.320 align:start position:0%
we can just use that in the DOM. And so
 

00:26:29.320 --> 00:26:31.310 align:start position:0%
we can just use that in the DOM. And so
that<00:26:29.560><c> can</c><00:26:30.040><c> you</c><00:26:30.160><c> can</c><00:26:30.280><c> use</c><00:26:30.600><c> lexical</c><00:26:31.000><c> scope</c>

00:26:31.310 --> 00:26:31.320 align:start position:0%
that can you can use lexical scope
 

00:26:31.320 --> 00:26:32.790 align:start position:0%
that can you can use lexical scope
there.<00:26:31.840><c> You</c><00:26:31.960><c> know,</c><00:26:32.080><c> red</c><00:26:32.240><c> div</c><00:26:32.440><c> might</c><00:26:32.640><c> mean</c><00:26:32.760><c> a</c>

00:26:32.790 --> 00:26:32.800 align:start position:0%
there. You know, red div might mean a
 

00:26:32.800 --> 00:26:34.070 align:start position:0%
there. You know, red div might mean a
different<00:26:33.080><c> thing</c><00:26:33.240><c> in</c><00:26:33.360><c> one</c><00:26:33.480><c> context</c><00:26:33.960><c> than</c>

00:26:34.070 --> 00:26:34.080 align:start position:0%
different thing in one context than
 

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different thing in one context than
another.<00:26:34.320><c> You</c><00:26:34.400><c> can</c><00:26:34.520><c> use</c><00:26:34.680><c> dynamic</c><00:26:35.160><c> scope</c><00:26:35.800><c> to</c>

00:26:35.910 --> 00:26:35.920 align:start position:0%
another. You can use dynamic scope to
 

00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:37.350 align:start position:0%
another. You can use dynamic scope to
figure<00:26:36.160><c> out</c><00:26:36.280><c> what</c><00:26:36.400><c> color</c><00:26:36.640><c> it</c><00:26:36.760><c> should</c><00:26:36.880><c> be.</c><00:26:37.240><c> All</c>

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figure out what color it should be. All
 

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figure out what color it should be. All
the<00:26:37.480><c> things</c><00:26:37.760><c> that</c><00:26:38.200><c> that</c><00:26:38.720><c> Closure</c><00:26:39.000><c> lets</c><00:26:39.160><c> you</c><00:26:39.240><c> do</c>

00:26:39.350 --> 00:26:39.360 align:start position:0%
the things that that Closure lets you do
 

00:26:39.360 --> 00:26:41.350 align:start position:0%
the things that that Closure lets you do
already.

00:26:41.350 --> 00:26:41.360 align:start position:0%
already.
 

00:26:41.360 --> 00:26:43.710 align:start position:0%
already.
It's<00:26:41.400><c> more</c><00:26:41.520><c> powerful</c><00:26:41.920><c> than</c><00:26:42.040><c> CSS,</c><00:26:42.480><c> I</c><00:26:42.520><c> believe.</c>

00:26:43.710 --> 00:26:43.720 align:start position:0%
It's more powerful than CSS, I believe.
 

00:26:43.720 --> 00:26:47.190 align:start position:0%
It's more powerful than CSS, I believe.
So<00:26:43.880><c> Castra</c><00:26:44.520><c> is</c><00:26:45.200><c> the</c><00:26:45.320><c> back</c><00:26:45.600><c> end</c><00:26:46.000><c> that</c><00:26:46.120><c> we</c><00:26:46.240><c> use.</c>

00:26:47.190 --> 00:26:47.200 align:start position:0%
So Castra is the back end that we use.
 

00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:49.710 align:start position:0%
So Castra is the back end that we use.
And<00:26:47.480><c> this</c><00:26:47.600><c> is</c><00:26:47.800><c> a</c><00:26:48.040><c> an</c><00:26:48.160><c> RPC</c>

00:26:49.710 --> 00:26:49.720 align:start position:0%
And this is a an RPC
 

00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:50.990 align:start position:0%
And this is a an RPC
an<00:26:49.840><c> RPC</c>

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an RPC
 

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an RPC
uh<00:26:51.400><c> middleware.</c>

00:26:53.710 --> 00:26:53.720 align:start position:0%
uh middleware.
 

00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:55.950 align:start position:0%
uh middleware.
and<00:26:54.000><c> a</c><00:26:54.080><c> ClojureScript</c><00:26:54.560><c> client</c><00:26:54.840><c> library.</c>

00:26:55.950 --> 00:26:55.960 align:start position:0%
and a ClojureScript client library.
 

00:26:55.960 --> 00:26:57.630 align:start position:0%
and a ClojureScript client library.
Uh<00:26:56.080><c> it</c><00:26:56.120><c> uses</c><00:26:56.480><c> EDN</c><00:26:56.880><c> back</c><00:26:57.120><c> and</c><00:26:57.240><c> forth,</c><00:26:57.440><c> so</c><00:26:57.560><c> you</c>

00:26:57.630 --> 00:26:57.640 align:start position:0%
Uh it uses EDN back and forth, so you
 

00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:00.270 align:start position:0%
Uh it uses EDN back and forth, so you
call<00:26:58.000><c> it</c><00:26:58.160><c> like</c><00:26:58.400><c> functions</c><00:26:59.080><c> on</c><00:26:59.200><c> the</c><00:26:59.320><c> client,</c>

00:27:00.270 --> 00:27:00.280 align:start position:0%
call it like functions on the client,
 

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call it like functions on the client,
and<00:27:00.800><c> uh</c><00:27:01.200><c> you</c><00:27:01.320><c> know,</c><00:27:01.440><c> you</c><00:27:01.720><c> give</c><00:27:01.920><c> it</c>

00:27:02.110 --> 00:27:02.120 align:start position:0%
and uh you know, you give it
 

00:27:02.120 --> 00:27:03.910 align:start position:0%
and uh you know, you give it
ClojureScript<00:27:02.640><c> data.</c>

00:27:03.910 --> 00:27:03.920 align:start position:0%
ClojureScript data.
 

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ClojureScript data.
You<00:27:04.000><c> don't</c><00:27:04.600><c> it's</c><00:27:04.960><c> pretty</c><00:27:05.200><c> much</c><00:27:05.400><c> transparent.</c>

00:27:05.990 --> 00:27:06.000 align:start position:0%
You don't it's pretty much transparent.
 

00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:07.510 align:start position:0%
You don't it's pretty much transparent.
There's<00:27:06.160><c> no</c>

00:27:07.510 --> 00:27:07.520 align:start position:0%
There's no
 

00:27:07.520 --> 00:27:08.070 align:start position:0%
There's no
uh

00:27:08.070 --> 00:27:08.080 align:start position:0%
uh
 

00:27:08.080 --> 00:27:09.470 align:start position:0%
uh
you're<00:27:08.200><c> not</c><00:27:08.360><c> making</c><00:27:08.600><c> anything</c><00:27:08.840><c> be</c><00:27:08.960><c> JSON</c><00:27:09.400><c> or</c>

00:27:09.470 --> 00:27:09.480 align:start position:0%
you're not making anything be JSON or
 

00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:11.990 align:start position:0%
you're not making anything be JSON or
anything<00:27:09.680><c> like</c><00:27:09.840><c> that.</c><00:27:10.720><c> Um</c><00:27:11.400><c> it</c><00:27:11.520><c> has</c><00:27:11.720><c> a</c><00:27:11.760><c> foreign</c>

00:27:11.990 --> 00:27:12.000 align:start position:0%
anything like that. Um it has a foreign
 

00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:13.910 align:start position:0%
anything like that. Um it has a foreign
assist<00:27:12.200><c> per</c><00:27:12.320><c> CQRS</c><00:27:12.880><c> state</c><00:27:13.080><c> machine</c><00:27:13.400><c> pattern,</c>

00:27:13.910 --> 00:27:13.920 align:start position:0%
assist per CQRS state machine pattern,
 

00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:16.430 align:start position:0%
assist per CQRS state machine pattern,
and<00:27:14.480><c> uh</c><00:27:14.880><c> it's</c><00:27:15.160><c> great</c><00:27:15.440><c> with</c><00:27:15.560><c> Datomic</c><00:27:16.040><c> because</c>

00:27:16.430 --> 00:27:16.440 align:start position:0%
and uh it's great with Datomic because
 

00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:18.950 align:start position:0%
and uh it's great with Datomic because
the<00:27:16.520><c> CQRS</c><00:27:17.040><c> pattern</c><00:27:17.760><c> is</c><00:27:18.200><c> uh</c>

00:27:18.950 --> 00:27:18.960 align:start position:0%
the CQRS pattern is uh
 

00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:20.670 align:start position:0%
the CQRS pattern is uh
really<00:27:19.240><c> amenable</c><00:27:19.640><c> to</c><00:27:19.800><c> polling,</c><00:27:20.480><c> which</c>

00:27:20.670 --> 00:27:20.680 align:start position:0%
really amenable to polling, which
 

00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:22.670 align:start position:0%
really amenable to polling, which
Datomic<00:27:21.200><c> is</c><00:27:21.320><c> really</c><00:27:21.560><c> good</c><00:27:21.800><c> at.</c><00:27:22.000><c> Like,</c><00:27:22.480><c> reads</c>

00:27:22.670 --> 00:27:22.680 align:start position:0%
Datomic is really good at. Like, reads
 

00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:24.750 align:start position:0%
Datomic is really good at. Like, reads
are<00:27:22.800><c> free,</c><00:27:23.040><c> so</c><00:27:23.200><c> polling</c><00:27:23.720><c> is</c><00:27:24.080><c> a</c><00:27:24.120><c> lot</c><00:27:24.400><c> cheaper</c>

00:27:24.750 --> 00:27:24.760 align:start position:0%
are free, so polling is a lot cheaper
 

00:27:24.760 --> 00:27:26.390 align:start position:0%
are free, so polling is a lot cheaper
than<00:27:25.280><c> if</c><00:27:25.400><c> you're</c><00:27:25.520><c> calling</c><00:27:25.840><c> into,</c><00:27:26.200><c> you</c><00:27:26.320><c> know,</c>

00:27:26.390 --> 00:27:26.400 align:start position:0%
than if you're calling into, you know,
 

00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:29.270 align:start position:0%
than if you're calling into, you know,
like<00:27:26.560><c> MySQL</c><00:27:27.040><c> or</c><00:27:27.160><c> something.</c>

00:27:29.270 --> 00:27:29.280 align:start position:0%
like MySQL or something.
 

00:27:29.280 --> 00:27:31.070 align:start position:0%
like MySQL or something.
Here's<00:27:29.440><c> the</c><00:27:29.520><c> picture,</c><00:27:29.840><c> basically,</c><00:27:30.560><c> of</c><00:27:30.880><c> what's</c>

00:27:31.070 --> 00:27:31.080 align:start position:0%
Here's the picture, basically, of what's
 

00:27:31.080 --> 00:27:32.430 align:start position:0%
Here's the picture, basically, of what's
going<00:27:31.280><c> on.</c><00:27:31.400><c> In</c><00:27:31.480><c> the</c><00:27:31.560><c> client,</c><00:27:31.960><c> you</c><00:27:32.040><c> call</c><00:27:32.280><c> this</c>

00:27:32.430 --> 00:27:32.440 align:start position:0%
going on. In the client, you call this
 

00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:34.150 align:start position:0%
going on. In the client, you call this
function.

00:27:34.150 --> 00:27:34.160 align:start position:0%
function.
 

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function.
Goes<00:27:34.400><c> through</c>

00:27:35.430 --> 00:27:35.440 align:start position:0%
Goes through
 

00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:37.950 align:start position:0%
Goes through
uh<00:27:35.840><c> our</c><00:27:36.000><c> little</c><00:27:36.200><c> servlet</c><00:27:37.280><c> uh</c>

00:27:37.950 --> 00:27:37.960 align:start position:0%
uh our little servlet uh
 

00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:39.670 align:start position:0%
uh our little servlet uh
our<00:27:38.080><c> middleware</c><00:27:38.480><c> in</c><00:27:38.600><c> Ring.</c>

00:27:39.670 --> 00:27:39.680 align:start position:0%
our middleware in Ring.
 

00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:43.070 align:start position:0%
our middleware in Ring.
And<00:27:40.680><c> the</c><00:27:41.040><c> RPC</c><00:27:41.480><c> handler</c>

00:27:43.070 --> 00:27:43.080 align:start position:0%
And the RPC handler
 

00:27:43.080 --> 00:27:45.190 align:start position:0%
And the RPC handler
looks<00:27:43.320><c> at</c><00:27:43.440><c> authentication</c><00:27:44.040><c> annotations,</c>

00:27:45.190 --> 00:27:45.200 align:start position:0%
looks at authentication annotations,
 

00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:47.150 align:start position:0%
looks at authentication annotations,
calls<00:27:45.560><c> an</c><00:27:45.680><c> RPC</c><00:27:46.080><c> function</c><00:27:46.480><c> in</c><00:27:46.560><c> your</c><00:27:46.760><c> API</c>

00:27:47.150 --> 00:27:47.160 align:start position:0%
calls an RPC function in your API
 

00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:48.710 align:start position:0%
calls an RPC function in your API
namespace,

00:27:48.710 --> 00:27:48.720 align:start position:0%
namespace,
 

00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:50.870 align:start position:0%
namespace,
and<00:27:49.440><c> that's</c><00:27:49.680><c> basically</c><00:27:50.200><c> for</c><00:27:50.360><c> side</c><00:27:50.600><c> effects</c>

00:27:50.870 --> 00:27:50.880 align:start position:0%
and that's basically for side effects
 

00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:51.830 align:start position:0%
and that's basically for side effects
only.<00:27:51.080><c> It's</c><00:27:51.200><c> going</c><00:27:51.320><c> to</c><00:27:51.400><c> manipulate</c><00:27:51.760><c> the</c>

00:27:51.830 --> 00:27:51.840 align:start position:0%
only. It's going to manipulate the
 

00:27:51.840 --> 00:27:54.030 align:start position:0%
only. It's going to manipulate the
database<00:27:52.200><c> in</c><00:27:52.280><c> some</c><00:27:52.480><c> way.</c>

00:27:54.030 --> 00:27:54.040 align:start position:0%
database in some way.
 

00:27:54.040 --> 00:27:56.270 align:start position:0%
database in some way.
It<00:27:54.160><c> always</c><00:27:54.400><c> returns</c><00:27:54.960><c> the</c><00:27:55.040><c> same</c><00:27:55.320><c> exact</c><00:27:55.680><c> query.</c>

00:27:56.270 --> 00:27:56.280 align:start position:0%
It always returns the same exact query.
 

00:27:56.280 --> 00:27:57.990 align:start position:0%
It always returns the same exact query.
So,<00:27:56.480><c> if</c><00:27:56.640><c> you</c><00:27:56.760><c> were</c><00:27:57.040><c> a</c><00:27:57.120><c> shopping</c><00:27:57.480><c> cart</c><00:27:57.720><c> site,</c>

00:27:57.990 --> 00:27:58.000 align:start position:0%
So, if you were a shopping cart site,
 

00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:00.430 align:start position:0%
So, if you were a shopping cart site,
this<00:27:58.160><c> query</c><00:27:58.440><c> might</c><00:27:58.680><c> be</c><00:27:59.200><c> what's</c><00:27:59.360><c> your</c><00:27:59.520><c> user</c><00:27:59.920><c> ID</c>

00:28:00.430 --> 00:28:00.440 align:start position:0%
this query might be what's your user ID
 

00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:02.390 align:start position:0%
this query might be what's your user ID
and<00:28:00.720><c> what's</c><00:28:00.880><c> in</c><00:28:00.960><c> your</c><00:28:01.080><c> shopping</c><00:28:01.440><c> cart,</c><00:28:01.760><c> say.</c>

00:28:02.390 --> 00:28:02.400 align:start position:0%
and what's in your shopping cart, say.
 

00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:03.390 align:start position:0%
and what's in your shopping cart, say.
But,<00:28:02.520><c> that</c><00:28:02.640><c> doesn't</c><00:28:02.880><c> depend</c><00:28:03.160><c> It</c><00:28:03.240><c> doesn't</c>

00:28:03.390 --> 00:28:03.400 align:start position:0%
But, that doesn't depend It doesn't
 

00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:06.110 align:start position:0%
But, that doesn't depend It doesn't
matter<00:28:03.640><c> what</c><00:28:04.400><c> what</c><00:28:04.680><c> the</c><00:28:05.160><c> uh</c><00:28:05.440><c> endpoint</c><00:28:05.920><c> was</c>

00:28:06.110 --> 00:28:06.120 align:start position:0%
matter what what the uh endpoint was
 

00:28:06.120 --> 00:28:07.590 align:start position:0%
matter what what the uh endpoint was
that<00:28:06.240><c> you</c><00:28:06.360><c> called.</c><00:28:06.640><c> You</c><00:28:06.760><c> call</c><00:28:07.000><c> login,</c><00:28:07.480><c> you</c>

00:28:07.590 --> 00:28:07.600 align:start position:0%
that you called. You call login, you
 

00:28:07.600 --> 00:28:09.710 align:start position:0%
that you called. You call login, you
call,<00:28:08.280><c> you</c><00:28:08.400><c> know,</c><00:28:08.520><c> buy</c><00:28:08.760><c> a</c><00:28:08.840><c> thing.</c><00:28:09.320><c> Whatever</c>

00:28:09.710 --> 00:28:09.720 align:start position:0%
call, you know, buy a thing. Whatever
 

00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:11.630 align:start position:0%
call, you know, buy a thing. Whatever
endpoint<00:28:10.080><c> you</c><00:28:10.160><c> call,</c><00:28:10.720><c> it</c><00:28:10.880><c> always</c><00:28:11.160><c> returns</c><00:28:11.560><c> the</c>

00:28:11.630 --> 00:28:11.640 align:start position:0%
endpoint you call, it always returns the
 

00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:13.310 align:start position:0%
endpoint you call, it always returns the
same<00:28:11.960><c> exact</c><00:28:12.280><c> query.</c>

00:28:13.310 --> 00:28:13.320 align:start position:0%
same exact query.
 

00:28:13.320 --> 00:28:15.230 align:start position:0%
same exact query.
This<00:28:13.440><c> makes</c><00:28:13.640><c> things</c><00:28:13.840><c> very</c><00:28:14.040><c> simple</c><00:28:14.400><c> because</c>

00:28:15.230 --> 00:28:15.240 align:start position:0%
This makes things very simple because
 

00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.590 align:start position:0%
This makes things very simple because
now<00:28:15.800><c> your</c><00:28:16.520><c> your</c><00:28:17.080><c> AJAX</c><00:28:17.480><c> call</c><00:28:18.120><c> doesn't</c><00:28:18.360><c> have</c><00:28:18.480><c> to</c>

00:28:18.590 --> 00:28:18.600 align:start position:0%
now your your AJAX call doesn't have to
 

00:28:18.600 --> 00:28:20.830 align:start position:0%
now your your AJAX call doesn't have to
know<00:28:18.840><c> what</c><00:28:19.000><c> to</c><00:28:19.120><c> do</c><00:28:19.280><c> with</c><00:28:19.400><c> the</c><00:28:19.480><c> response.</c>

00:28:20.830 --> 00:28:20.840 align:start position:0%
know what to do with the response.
 

00:28:20.840 --> 00:28:22.510 align:start position:0%
know what to do with the response.
It<00:28:20.960><c> just</c><00:28:21.240><c> fires</c><00:28:21.560><c> and</c><00:28:21.680><c> forgets.</c><00:28:22.240><c> All</c><00:28:22.440><c> the</c>

00:28:22.510 --> 00:28:22.520 align:start position:0%
It just fires and forgets. All the
 

00:28:22.520 --> 00:28:25.550 align:start position:0%
It just fires and forgets. All the
responses<00:28:23.320><c> come</c><00:28:23.520><c> back</c><00:28:23.840><c> to</c><00:28:23.960><c> the</c><00:28:24.080><c> same</c><00:28:24.560><c> handler,</c>

00:28:25.550 --> 00:28:25.560 align:start position:0%
responses come back to the same handler,
 

00:28:25.560 --> 00:28:28.630 align:start position:0%
responses come back to the same handler,
which<00:28:25.760><c> updates</c><00:28:26.120><c> the</c><00:28:26.200><c> global</c><00:28:26.560><c> state</c><00:28:27.080><c> of</c><00:28:27.960><c> of</c><00:28:28.160><c> the</c>

00:28:28.630 --> 00:28:28.640 align:start position:0%
which updates the global state of of the
 

00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:29.830 align:start position:0%
which updates the global state of of the
um

00:28:29.830 --> 00:28:29.840 align:start position:0%
um
 

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um
of<00:28:29.960><c> the</c><00:28:30.040><c> client.</c>

00:28:31.790 --> 00:28:31.800 align:start position:0%
of the client.
 

00:28:31.800 --> 00:28:33.230 align:start position:0%
of the client.
So,<00:28:31.880><c> the</c><00:28:32.000><c> API</c><00:28:32.320><c> endpoints</c><00:28:32.680><c> are</c><00:28:32.760><c> just</c><00:28:32.920><c> regular</c>

00:28:33.230 --> 00:28:33.240 align:start position:0%
So, the API endpoints are just regular
 

00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:34.230 align:start position:0%
So, the API endpoints are just regular
functions,<00:28:33.720><c> but</c><00:28:33.840><c> they</c><00:28:33.920><c> have</c><00:28:34.080><c> these</c>

00:28:34.230 --> 00:28:34.240 align:start position:0%
functions, but they have these
 

00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:36.390 align:start position:0%
functions, but they have these
annotations<00:28:35.440><c> on</c><00:28:35.640><c> them,</c><00:28:35.840><c> which</c><00:28:36.000><c> are</c><00:28:36.080><c> similar</c>

00:28:36.390 --> 00:28:36.400 align:start position:0%
annotations on them, which are similar
 

00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:38.590 align:start position:0%
annotations on them, which are similar
to<00:28:36.520><c> Clojure</c><00:28:36.880><c> pre-</c><00:28:37.040><c> and</c><00:28:37.120><c> post-conditions.</c>

00:28:38.590 --> 00:28:38.600 align:start position:0%
to Clojure pre- and post-conditions.
 

00:28:38.600 --> 00:28:39.990 align:start position:0%
to Clojure pre- and post-conditions.
Uh

00:28:39.990 --> 00:28:40.000 align:start position:0%
Uh
 

00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:41.630 align:start position:0%
Uh
this<00:28:40.160><c> allows</c><00:28:40.360><c> you</c><00:28:40.440><c> to</c><00:28:40.720><c> to</c><00:28:40.840><c> compose</c><00:28:41.280><c> API</c>

00:28:41.630 --> 00:28:41.640 align:start position:0%
this allows you to to compose API
 

00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:44.350 align:start position:0%
this allows you to to compose API
functions<00:28:42.720><c> uh</c><00:28:42.800><c> without</c><00:28:43.080><c> mocking</c><00:28:43.400><c> any</c><00:28:43.560><c> state.</c>

00:28:44.350 --> 00:28:44.360 align:start position:0%
functions uh without mocking any state.
 

00:28:44.360 --> 00:28:46.510 align:start position:0%
functions uh without mocking any state.
So,<00:28:44.640><c> it</c><00:28:44.800><c> separates</c><00:28:45.160><c> the</c><00:28:45.240><c> authentication</c><00:28:46.360><c> from</c>

00:28:46.510 --> 00:28:46.520 align:start position:0%
So, it separates the authentication from
 

00:28:46.520 --> 00:28:48.230 align:start position:0%
So, it separates the authentication from
the<00:28:46.640><c> invocation.</c><00:28:47.480><c> So,</c><00:28:47.600><c> the</c><00:28:47.720><c> authentication</c>

00:28:48.230 --> 00:28:48.240 align:start position:0%
the invocation. So, the authentication
 

00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:49.750 align:start position:0%
the invocation. So, the authentication
only<00:28:48.440><c> happens</c><00:28:49.000><c> when</c><00:28:49.160><c> it</c><00:28:49.240><c> comes</c><00:28:49.480><c> in</c><00:28:49.560><c> on</c><00:28:49.640><c> the</c>

00:28:49.750 --> 00:28:49.760 align:start position:0%
only happens when it comes in on the
 

00:28:49.760 --> 00:28:51.150 align:start position:0%
only happens when it comes in on the
HTTP

00:28:51.150 --> 00:28:51.160 align:start position:0%
HTTP
 

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HTTP
uh<00:28:51.440><c> as</c><00:28:51.600><c> an</c><00:28:51.680><c> HTTP</c><00:28:52.160><c> endpoint.</c>

00:28:53.630 --> 00:28:53.640 align:start position:0%
uh as an HTTP endpoint.
 

00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:55.630 align:start position:0%
uh as an HTTP endpoint.
Uh<00:28:54.000><c> and</c><00:28:54.160><c> also</c><00:28:54.400><c> exceptions</c><00:28:54.960><c> can</c><00:28:55.120><c> percolate</c><00:28:55.520><c> out</c>

00:28:55.630 --> 00:28:55.640 align:start position:0%
Uh and also exceptions can percolate out
 

00:28:55.640 --> 00:28:57.750 align:start position:0%
Uh and also exceptions can percolate out
to<00:28:55.720><c> the</c><00:28:55.800><c> client</c><00:28:56.200><c> and</c><00:28:56.280><c> be</c><00:28:56.400><c> caught.</c>

00:28:57.750 --> 00:28:57.760 align:start position:0%
to the client and be caught.
 

00:28:57.760 --> 00:29:00.230 align:start position:0%
to the client and be caught.
So,<00:28:57.920><c> this</c><00:28:58.000><c> is</c><00:28:58.080><c> an</c><00:28:58.160><c> example</c><00:28:58.560><c> of</c><00:28:58.640><c> that.</c>

00:29:00.230 --> 00:29:00.240 align:start position:0%
So, this is an example of that.
 

00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:01.070 align:start position:0%
So, this is an example of that.
It's<00:29:00.280><c> a</c><00:29:00.320><c> map</c><00:29:00.640><c> where</c><00:29:00.760><c> you</c><00:29:00.840><c> give</c><00:29:00.960><c> it</c><00:29:01.040><c> a</c>

00:29:01.070 --> 00:29:01.080 align:start position:0%
It's a map where you give it a
 

00:29:01.080 --> 00:29:02.750 align:start position:0%
It's a map where you give it a
precondition<00:29:01.800><c> and</c><00:29:01.920><c> a</c><00:29:01.960><c> query,</c><00:29:02.320><c> which</c><00:29:02.520><c> is</c><00:29:02.640><c> what</c>

00:29:02.750 --> 00:29:02.760 align:start position:0%
precondition and a query, which is what
 

00:29:02.760 --> 00:29:05.030 align:start position:0%
precondition and a query, which is what
it<00:29:02.840><c> returns</c><00:29:03.640><c> at</c><00:29:03.760><c> the</c><00:29:03.880><c> end.</c>

00:29:05.030 --> 00:29:05.040 align:start position:0%
it returns at the end.
 

00:29:05.040 --> 00:29:06.270 align:start position:0%
it returns at the end.
And<00:29:05.200><c> you</c><00:29:05.280><c> can</c><00:29:05.440><c> call</c><00:29:05.720><c> these</c><00:29:05.920><c> things</c><00:29:06.080><c> from</c><00:29:06.200><c> the</c>

00:29:06.270 --> 00:29:06.280 align:start position:0%
And you can call these things from the
 

00:29:06.280 --> 00:29:08.390 align:start position:0%
And you can call these things from the
REPL,<00:29:06.560><c> and</c><00:29:06.640><c> they</c><00:29:06.760><c> work</c><00:29:06.960><c> just</c><00:29:07.200><c> fine.</c><00:29:08.040><c> Uh</c><00:29:08.280><c> they</c>

00:29:08.390 --> 00:29:08.400 align:start position:0%
REPL, and they work just fine. Uh they
 

00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:09.430 align:start position:0%
REPL, and they work just fine. Uh they
work<00:29:08.560><c> exactly</c><00:29:08.920><c> the</c><00:29:08.960><c> same</c><00:29:09.160><c> way.</c><00:29:09.240><c> You</c><00:29:09.320><c> don't</c>

00:29:09.430 --> 00:29:09.440 align:start position:0%
work exactly the same way. You don't
 

00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:12.430 align:start position:0%
work exactly the same way. You don't
have<00:29:09.560><c> to</c><00:29:09.680><c> mock</c><00:29:09.920><c> any</c><00:29:10.040><c> state</c><00:29:10.320><c> at</c><00:29:10.440><c> all.</c>

00:29:12.430 --> 00:29:12.440 align:start position:0%
have to mock any state at all.
 

00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:14.990 align:start position:0%
have to mock any state at all.
This<00:29:12.560><c> is</c><00:29:12.640><c> a</c><00:29:13.000><c> example</c><00:29:13.440><c> application</c><00:29:14.600><c> of</c><00:29:14.760><c> what</c><00:29:14.920><c> it</c>

00:29:14.990 --> 00:29:15.000 align:start position:0%
This is a example application of what it
 

00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:17.470 align:start position:0%
This is a example application of what it
would<00:29:15.120><c> look</c><00:29:15.280><c> like.</c>

00:29:17.470 --> 00:29:17.480 align:start position:0%
would look like.
 

00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:18.750 align:start position:0%
would look like.
And<00:29:17.560><c> on</c><00:29:17.640><c> the</c><00:29:17.720><c> client</c><00:29:18.040><c> side,</c><00:29:18.320><c> you</c><00:29:18.440><c> create</c>

00:29:18.750 --> 00:29:18.760 align:start position:0%
And on the client side, you create
 

00:29:18.760 --> 00:29:21.070 align:start position:0%
And on the client side, you create
generally<00:29:19.120><c> three</c><00:29:19.680><c> Javelin</c><00:29:20.080><c> cells,</c><00:29:20.600><c> one</c><00:29:20.840><c> for</c>

00:29:21.070 --> 00:29:21.080 align:start position:0%
generally three Javelin cells, one for
 

00:29:21.080 --> 00:29:23.030 align:start position:0%
generally three Javelin cells, one for
the<00:29:21.800><c> the</c><00:29:21.920><c> state</c><00:29:22.400><c> of</c><00:29:22.520><c> your</c><00:29:22.640><c> little</c><00:29:22.800><c> state</c>

00:29:23.030 --> 00:29:23.040 align:start position:0%
the the state of your little state
 

00:29:23.040 --> 00:29:24.870 align:start position:0%
the the state of your little state
machine,<00:29:23.760><c> one</c><00:29:23.960><c> for</c><00:29:24.080><c> any</c><00:29:24.240><c> errors</c><00:29:24.600><c> that</c><00:29:24.720><c> come</c>

00:29:24.870 --> 00:29:24.880 align:start position:0%
machine, one for any errors that come
 

00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:27.710 align:start position:0%
machine, one for any errors that come
back,<00:29:25.120><c> exceptions,</c><00:29:26.000><c> and</c><00:29:26.240><c> one</c><00:29:26.440><c> for</c><00:29:26.800><c> how</c><00:29:26.960><c> many,</c>

00:29:27.710 --> 00:29:27.720 align:start position:0%
back, exceptions, and one for how many,
 

00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:29.950 align:start position:0%
back, exceptions, and one for how many,
you<00:29:27.840><c> know,</c><00:29:28.080><c> a</c><00:29:28.240><c> a</c><00:29:28.320><c> sequence</c><00:29:28.800><c> of</c><00:29:29.360><c> currently</c><00:29:29.800><c> in</c>

00:29:29.950 --> 00:29:29.960 align:start position:0%
you know, a a sequence of currently in
 

00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:32.310 align:start position:0%
you know, a a sequence of currently in
progress<00:29:30.600><c> async</c><00:29:30.920><c> calls.</c><00:29:31.840><c> Cuz</c><00:29:31.960><c> you</c><00:29:32.040><c> might</c><00:29:32.160><c> want</c>

00:29:32.310 --> 00:29:32.320 align:start position:0%
progress async calls. Cuz you might want
 

00:29:32.320 --> 00:29:33.990 align:start position:0%
progress async calls. Cuz you might want
to<00:29:32.680><c> know</c><00:29:33.000><c> if</c><00:29:33.120><c> something's</c><00:29:33.480><c> still</c><00:29:33.640><c> loading</c><00:29:33.960><c> or</c>

00:29:33.990 --> 00:29:34.000 align:start position:0%
to know if something's still loading or
 

00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:35.430 align:start position:0%
to know if something's still loading or
not.

00:29:35.430 --> 00:29:35.440 align:start position:0%
not.
 

00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:37.070 align:start position:0%
not.
Uh<00:29:35.600><c> you</c><00:29:35.720><c> construct</c><00:29:36.080><c> the</c><00:29:36.120><c> remote</c><00:29:36.360><c> endpoints</c>

00:29:37.070 --> 00:29:37.080 align:start position:0%
Uh you construct the remote endpoints
 

00:29:37.080 --> 00:29:38.830 align:start position:0%
Uh you construct the remote endpoints
and<00:29:37.280><c> call</c><00:29:37.480><c> them</c><00:29:37.600><c> like</c><00:29:37.760><c> functions.</c><00:29:38.680><c> So,</c>

00:29:38.830 --> 00:29:38.840 align:start position:0%
and call them like functions. So,
 

00:29:38.840 --> 00:29:40.070 align:start position:0%
and call them like functions. So,
basically,<00:29:39.160><c> there's</c><00:29:39.360><c> this</c><00:29:39.560><c> make</c><00:29:39.800><c> remote</c>

00:29:40.070 --> 00:29:40.080 align:start position:0%
basically, there's this make remote
 

00:29:40.080 --> 00:29:41.470 align:start position:0%
basically, there's this make remote
function<00:29:40.440><c> that</c><00:29:40.560><c> allows</c><00:29:40.880><c> you</c><00:29:41.000><c> to</c><00:29:41.120><c> construct</c>

00:29:41.470 --> 00:29:41.480 align:start position:0%
function that allows you to construct
 

00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:43.270 align:start position:0%
function that allows you to construct
the<00:29:41.600><c> endpoint</c><00:29:42.680><c> and</c><00:29:42.760><c> hook</c><00:29:42.920><c> it</c><00:29:43.000><c> up</c><00:29:43.120><c> to</c><00:29:43.200><c> the</c>

00:29:43.270 --> 00:29:43.280 align:start position:0%
the endpoint and hook it up to the
 

00:29:43.280 --> 00:29:44.510 align:start position:0%
the endpoint and hook it up to the
cells.

00:29:44.510 --> 00:29:44.520 align:start position:0%
cells.
 

00:29:44.520 --> 00:29:46.550 align:start position:0%
cells.
Then,<00:29:44.840><c> you</c><00:29:44.960><c> just</c><00:29:45.160><c> call</c><00:29:45.480><c> it</c>

00:29:46.550 --> 00:29:46.560 align:start position:0%
Then, you just call it
 

00:29:46.560 --> 00:29:47.630 align:start position:0%
Then, you just call it
like<00:29:46.720><c> over</c><00:29:46.880><c> here,</c><00:29:47.080><c> you</c><00:29:47.200><c> call</c><00:29:47.360><c> it</c><00:29:47.440><c> like</c><00:29:47.560><c> a</c>

00:29:47.630 --> 00:29:47.640 align:start position:0%
like over here, you call it like a
 

00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:48.990 align:start position:0%
like over here, you call it like a
function.<00:29:48.400><c> And</c><00:29:48.480><c> you</c><00:29:48.520><c> don't</c><00:29:48.640><c> have</c><00:29:48.760><c> to</c><00:29:48.840><c> worry</c>

00:29:48.990 --> 00:29:49.000 align:start position:0%
function. And you don't have to worry
 

00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:50.790 align:start position:0%
function. And you don't have to worry
about<00:29:49.240><c> what</c><00:29:49.360><c> it</c><00:29:49.440><c> returns.</c><00:29:49.880><c> You</c><00:29:49.920><c> don't</c><00:29:50.040><c> have</c><00:29:50.160><c> to</c>

00:29:50.790 --> 00:29:50.800 align:start position:0%
about what it returns. You don't have to
 

00:29:50.800 --> 00:29:52.070 align:start position:0%
about what it returns. You don't have to
This<00:29:51.040><c> part</c><00:29:51.360><c> right</c><00:29:51.520><c> here</c><00:29:51.640><c> doesn't</c><00:29:51.880><c> have</c><00:29:52.000><c> to</c>

00:29:52.070 --> 00:29:52.080 align:start position:0%
This part right here doesn't have to
 

00:29:52.080 --> 00:29:54.030 align:start position:0%
This part right here doesn't have to
know<00:29:52.480><c> how</c><00:29:52.760><c> the</c><00:29:52.880><c> rest</c><00:29:53.120><c> of</c><00:29:53.200><c> the</c><00:29:53.440><c> application</c><00:29:53.920><c> is</c>

00:29:54.030 --> 00:29:54.040 align:start position:0%
know how the rest of the application is
 

00:29:54.040 --> 00:29:55.790 align:start position:0%
know how the rest of the application is
affected.<00:29:54.760><c> That</c><00:29:54.920><c> percolates</c><00:29:55.440><c> up</c><00:29:55.640><c> through</c>

00:29:55.790 --> 00:29:55.800 align:start position:0%
affected. That percolates up through
 

00:29:55.800 --> 00:30:00.790 align:start position:0%
affected. That percolates up through
formula<00:29:56.200><c> cells</c><00:29:56.520><c> automatically.</c>

00:30:00.790 --> 00:30:00.800 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:30:00.800 --> 00:30:02.310 align:start position:0%
 
Here's<00:30:01.040><c> a</c><00:30:01.400><c> a</c><00:30:01.440><c> picture</c><00:30:01.840><c> of</c><00:30:02.040><c> of</c><00:30:02.160><c> the</c>

00:30:02.310 --> 00:30:02.320 align:start position:0%
Here's a a picture of of the
 

00:30:02.320 --> 00:30:07.310 align:start position:0%
Here's a a picture of of the
architecture<00:30:02.880><c> of</c><00:30:03.240><c> what</c><00:30:03.400><c> I</c><00:30:03.440><c> just</c><00:30:03.720><c> described.</c>

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Does<00:30:07.400><c> anyone</c><00:30:07.720><c> have</c><00:30:07.920><c> questions?</c>

00:30:09.310 --> 00:30:09.320 align:start position:0%
Does anyone have questions?
 

00:30:09.320 --> 00:30:10.550 align:start position:0%
Does anyone have questions?
Thumbs<00:30:09.560><c> up,</c><00:30:09.680><c> thumbs</c><00:30:09.880><c> down.</c><00:30:10.320><c> I</c><00:30:10.360><c> don't</c><00:30:10.480><c> know.</c>

00:30:10.550 --> 00:30:10.560 align:start position:0%
Thumbs up, thumbs down. I don't know.
 

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Thumbs up, thumbs down. I don't know.
How<00:30:10.640><c> do</c><00:30:10.720><c> we</c><00:30:10.800><c> feel?</c><00:30:11.600><c> Yes.</c>

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How do we feel? Yes.
 

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How do we feel? Yes.
Is<00:30:12.520><c> Castra</c><00:30:12.840><c> a</c><00:30:12.880><c> little</c><00:30:13.040><c> bit</c><00:30:13.160><c> like</c><00:30:13.280><c> Short</c><00:30:13.600><c> Leaf?</c>

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Can<00:30:16.880><c> you</c><00:30:16.920><c> say</c><00:30:17.040><c> that</c><00:30:17.120><c> again?</c>

00:30:17.630 --> 00:30:17.640 align:start position:0%
Can you say that again?
 

00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:20.270 align:start position:0%
Can you say that again?
Is<00:30:17.800><c> Castra</c><00:30:18.120><c> a</c><00:30:18.160><c> little</c><00:30:18.320><c> bit</c><00:30:18.440><c> like</c><00:30:18.560><c> Short</c><00:30:18.920><c> Leaf?</c>

00:30:20.270 --> 00:30:20.280 align:start position:0%
Is Castra a little bit like Short Leaf?
 

00:30:20.280 --> 00:30:21.750 align:start position:0%
Is Castra a little bit like Short Leaf?
The<00:30:20.360><c> question</c><00:30:20.720><c> is,</c><00:30:20.880><c> is</c><00:30:21.000><c> Castra</c><00:30:21.360><c> like</c><00:30:21.520><c> Short</c>

00:30:21.750 --> 00:30:21.760 align:start position:0%
The question is, is Castra like Short
 

00:30:21.760 --> 00:30:23.710 align:start position:0%
The question is, is Castra like Short
Leaf?

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Leaf?
 

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Leaf?
Well,<00:30:23.800><c> it's</c><00:30:23.920><c> an</c><00:30:24.000><c> RPC</c><00:30:24.920><c> framework,</c><00:30:25.560><c> but</c>

00:30:26.710 --> 00:30:26.720 align:start position:0%
Well, it's an RPC framework, but
 

00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:27.830 align:start position:0%
Well, it's an RPC framework, but
um

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um
 

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um
the<00:30:28.200><c> um</c><00:30:29.000><c> the</c><00:30:29.160><c> annotations</c><00:30:29.720><c> that</c><00:30:29.840><c> we</c><00:30:29.920><c> do</c><00:30:30.200><c> to</c>

00:30:30.350 --> 00:30:30.360 align:start position:0%
the um the annotations that we do to
 

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the um the annotations that we do to
separate<00:30:31.280><c> all</c><00:30:31.440><c> the</c><00:30:31.520><c> things</c><00:30:31.760><c> that</c><00:30:31.880><c> have</c><00:30:31.960><c> to</c><00:30:32.040><c> do</c>

00:30:32.110 --> 00:30:32.120 align:start position:0%
separate all the things that have to do
 

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separate all the things that have to do
with<00:30:32.200><c> the</c><00:30:32.280><c> session,</c><00:30:32.720><c> basically,</c>

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with the session, basically,
 

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with the session, basically,
into<00:30:34.320><c> a</c><00:30:34.400><c> separate</c><00:30:34.720><c> layer</c><00:30:35.280><c> that</c>

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into a separate layer that
 

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into a separate layer that
I<00:30:36.640><c> think</c><00:30:37.240><c> that's</c><00:30:37.440><c> a</c><00:30:37.480><c> little</c><00:30:37.680><c> bit</c><00:30:37.840><c> different.</c>

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I think that's a little bit different.
 

00:30:38.840 --> 00:30:40.550 align:start position:0%
I think that's a little bit different.
Um<00:30:39.160><c> so,</c><00:30:39.400><c> like</c><00:30:39.600><c> when</c><00:30:39.720><c> you're</c><00:30:39.800><c> at</c><00:30:39.880><c> the</c><00:30:39.960><c> REPL,</c>

00:30:40.550 --> 00:30:40.560 align:start position:0%
Um so, like when you're at the REPL,
 

00:30:40.560 --> 00:30:42.030 align:start position:0%
Um so, like when you're at the REPL,
there's<00:30:40.760><c> no</c><00:30:40.920><c> session</c><00:30:41.320><c> that</c><00:30:41.440><c> you</c><00:30:41.520><c> worry</c><00:30:41.760><c> about.</c>

00:30:42.030 --> 00:30:42.040 align:start position:0%
there's no session that you worry about.
 

00:30:42.040 --> 00:30:43.790 align:start position:0%
there's no session that you worry about.
You<00:30:42.120><c> don't</c><00:30:42.240><c> have</c><00:30:42.360><c> to</c><00:30:42.480><c> mock</c><00:30:42.720><c> anything.</c><00:30:43.680><c> And</c>

00:30:43.790 --> 00:30:43.800 align:start position:0%
You don't have to mock anything. And
 

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You don't have to mock anything. And
everything<00:30:44.120><c> runs</c><00:30:44.600><c> the</c><00:30:44.720><c> same.</c><00:30:44.960><c> So,</c><00:30:45.040><c> you</c><00:30:45.120><c> can</c>

00:30:45.230 --> 00:30:45.240 align:start position:0%
everything runs the same. So, you can
 

00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:47.430 align:start position:0%
everything runs the same. So, you can
test<00:30:45.520><c> things.</c><00:30:45.840><c> You</c><00:30:45.920><c> can</c><00:30:46.520><c> You</c><00:30:46.640><c> can</c><00:30:47.040><c> work</c><00:30:47.280><c> the</c>

00:30:47.430 --> 00:30:47.440 align:start position:0%
test things. You can You can work the
 

00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:49.390 align:start position:0%
test things. You can You can work the
app<00:30:47.760><c> from</c><00:30:47.920><c> the</c><00:30:48.000><c> REPL,</c><00:30:48.880><c> which</c><00:30:48.920><c> I</c><00:30:48.960><c> do</c><00:30:49.080><c> a</c><00:30:49.160><c> lot</c><00:30:49.320><c> when</c>

00:30:49.390 --> 00:30:49.400 align:start position:0%
app from the REPL, which I do a lot when
 

00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:51.510 align:start position:0%
app from the REPL, which I do a lot when
I'm<00:30:49.480><c> developing.</c>

00:30:51.510 --> 00:30:51.520 align:start position:0%
I'm developing.
 

00:30:51.520 --> 00:30:53.230 align:start position:0%
I'm developing.
Funny<00:30:51.800><c> side</c><00:30:52.040><c> note,</c><00:30:52.520><c> the</c><00:30:52.600><c> original</c><00:30:52.920><c> version</c><00:30:53.160><c> of</c>

00:30:53.230 --> 00:30:53.240 align:start position:0%
Funny side note, the original version of
 

00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:55.790 align:start position:0%
Funny side note, the original version of
Castra<00:30:53.560><c> was</c><00:30:53.760><c> written</c><00:30:53.960><c> in</c><00:30:54.080><c> PHP.</c><00:30:54.840><c> Is</c><00:30:54.880><c> that</c><00:30:55.360><c> true?</c>

00:30:55.790 --> 00:30:55.800 align:start position:0%
Castra was written in PHP. Is that true?
 

00:30:55.800 --> 00:30:57.190 align:start position:0%
Castra was written in PHP. Is that true?
Oh,<00:30:55.880><c> we</c><00:30:55.960><c> won't</c><00:30:56.120><c> talk</c><00:30:56.240><c> about</c><00:30:56.400><c> that.</c><00:30:56.560><c> Sorry.</c><00:30:57.080><c> No,</c>

00:30:57.190 --> 00:30:57.200 align:start position:0%
Oh, we won't talk about that. Sorry. No,
 

00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:59.390 align:start position:0%
Oh, we won't talk about that. Sorry. No,
other<00:30:57.480><c> other</c><00:30:57.640><c> questions?</c><00:30:58.600><c> Yes.</c>

00:30:59.390 --> 00:30:59.400 align:start position:0%
other other questions? Yes.
 

00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:00.670 align:start position:0%
other other questions? Yes.
Uh<00:30:59.680><c> you</c><00:30:59.800><c> seem</c><00:31:00.000><c> to</c><00:31:00.080><c> have</c><00:31:00.200><c> gone</c><00:31:00.320><c> over</c><00:31:00.400><c> like</c><00:31:00.560><c> the</c>

00:31:00.670 --> 00:31:00.680 align:start position:0%
Uh you seem to have gone over like the
 

00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:02.030 align:start position:0%
Uh you seem to have gone over like the
example<00:31:01.160><c> code.</c>

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example code.
 

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example code.
Can<00:31:02.120><c> you</c><00:31:02.200><c> go</c><00:31:02.240><c> back</c><00:31:02.480><c> to</c><00:31:02.560><c> that?</c>

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Sure.<00:31:06.360><c> This</c><00:31:06.560><c> one?</c>

00:31:07.390 --> 00:31:07.400 align:start position:0%
Sure. This one?
 

00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:08.790 align:start position:0%
Sure. This one?
No,<00:31:07.680><c> this</c>

00:31:08.790 --> 00:31:08.800 align:start position:0%
No, this
 

00:31:08.800 --> 00:31:09.230 align:start position:0%
No, this
This<00:31:08.920><c> one?</c>

00:31:09.230 --> 00:31:09.240 align:start position:0%
This one?
 

00:31:09.240 --> 00:31:10.350 align:start position:0%
This one?
Yeah.

00:31:10.350 --> 00:31:10.360 align:start position:0%
Yeah.
 

00:31:10.360 --> 00:31:11.950 align:start position:0%
Yeah.
Okay.<00:31:10.600><c> I'm</c><00:31:10.720><c> sorry</c><00:31:10.920><c> we</c><00:31:11.000><c> don't</c><00:31:11.160><c> have</c><00:31:11.640><c> Let</c><00:31:11.720><c> me</c><00:31:11.800><c> try</c>

00:31:11.950 --> 00:31:11.960 align:start position:0%
Okay. I'm sorry we don't have Let me try
 

00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:14.110 align:start position:0%
Okay. I'm sorry we don't have Let me try
and

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and
 

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and
There<00:31:14.280><c> we</c><00:31:14.440><c> go.</c><00:31:15.160><c> All</c><00:31:15.200><c> right.</c>

00:31:16.630 --> 00:31:16.640 align:start position:0%
There we go. All right.
 

00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:18.630 align:start position:0%
There we go. All right.
So,<00:31:16.840><c> Castra</c><00:31:17.240><c> define</c><00:31:17.680><c> uh</c>

00:31:18.630 --> 00:31:18.640 align:start position:0%
So, Castra define uh
 

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So, Castra define uh
exports<00:31:19.120><c> this</c><00:31:19.440><c> uh</c><00:31:19.560><c> defn</c><00:31:19.920><c> macro,</c><00:31:20.280><c> which</c><00:31:20.440><c> is</c>

00:31:20.550 --> 00:31:20.560 align:start position:0%
exports this uh defn macro, which is
 

00:31:20.560 --> 00:31:22.150 align:start position:0%
exports this uh defn macro, which is
really<00:31:20.760><c> the</c><00:31:20.880><c> same</c><00:31:21.080><c> as</c><00:31:21.200><c> defn,</c><00:31:21.640><c> but</c><00:31:21.800><c> it</c><00:31:21.880><c> just</c>

00:31:22.150 --> 00:31:22.160 align:start position:0%
really the same as defn, but it just
 

00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:24.310 align:start position:0%
really the same as defn, but it just
implements<00:31:22.680><c> these</c><00:31:23.560><c> uh</c><00:31:23.960><c> you</c><00:31:24.040><c> know,</c><00:31:24.120><c> these</c>

00:31:24.310 --> 00:31:24.320 align:start position:0%
implements these uh you know, these
 

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implements these uh you know, these
annotations<00:31:24.920><c> here.</c>

00:31:25.950 --> 00:31:25.960 align:start position:0%
annotations here.
 

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annotations here.
And<00:31:26.440><c> the</c><00:31:26.520><c> precondition,</c><00:31:27.160><c> generally</c><00:31:27.920><c> the</c><00:31:28.000><c> way</c>

00:31:28.150 --> 00:31:28.160 align:start position:0%
And the precondition, generally the way
 

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And the precondition, generally the way
we<00:31:28.320><c> do</c><00:31:28.480><c> it</c><00:31:28.680><c> is</c><00:31:29.040><c> we</c><00:31:29.160><c> set</c><00:31:29.360><c> up</c><00:31:29.520><c> a</c><00:31:29.600><c> separate</c>

00:31:29.910 --> 00:31:29.920 align:start position:0%
we do it is we set up a separate
 

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we do it is we set up a separate
namespace<00:31:30.520><c> for</c><00:31:31.080><c> HTTP</c><00:31:31.600><c> rules,</c><00:31:32.400><c> and</c><00:31:32.480><c> it's</c>

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namespace for HTTP rules, and it's
 

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namespace for HTTP rules, and it's
basically<00:31:33.080><c> like</c><00:31:33.280><c> Turing</c><00:31:33.600><c> complete,</c><00:31:34.720><c> you</c>

00:31:34.790 --> 00:31:34.800 align:start position:0%
basically like Turing complete, you
 

00:31:34.800 --> 00:31:36.510 align:start position:0%
basically like Turing complete, you
know,<00:31:34.960><c> authentication.</c><00:31:35.920><c> You</c><00:31:36.000><c> just</c><00:31:36.160><c> call</c><00:31:36.360><c> this</c>

00:31:36.510 --> 00:31:36.520 align:start position:0%
know, authentication. You just call this
 

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know, authentication. You just call this
thing<00:31:36.720><c> just</c><00:31:36.840><c> like</c><00:31:36.960><c> a</c><00:31:37.000><c> precondition,</c><00:31:37.520><c> and</c><00:31:37.640><c> you</c>

00:31:37.670 --> 00:31:37.680 align:start position:0%
thing just like a precondition, and you
 

00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:39.510 align:start position:0%
thing just like a precondition, and you
can<00:31:37.800><c> throw</c><00:31:37.960><c> an</c><00:31:38.040><c> exception</c><00:31:38.840><c> from</c><00:31:39.000><c> those</c><00:31:39.200><c> rules,</c>

00:31:39.510 --> 00:31:39.520 align:start position:0%
can throw an exception from those rules,
 

00:31:39.520 --> 00:31:41.350 align:start position:0%
can throw an exception from those rules,
which<00:31:39.640><c> will</c><00:31:39.760><c> be</c><00:31:39.840><c> caught</c><00:31:40.040><c> in</c><00:31:40.120><c> the</c><00:31:40.200><c> client.</c>

00:31:41.350 --> 00:31:41.360 align:start position:0%
which will be caught in the client.
 

00:31:41.360 --> 00:31:44.390 align:start position:0%
which will be caught in the client.
But,<00:31:42.240><c> that</c><00:31:42.400><c> only</c><00:31:42.600><c> happens</c><00:31:43.320><c> at</c><00:31:43.520><c> the</c><00:31:43.760><c> acts</c><00:31:44.240><c> at</c>

00:31:44.390 --> 00:31:44.400 align:start position:0%
But, that only happens at the acts at
 

00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:46.470 align:start position:0%
But, that only happens at the acts at
the<00:31:44.560><c> actual</c><00:31:45.040><c> endpoint.</c><00:31:45.480><c> In</c><00:31:45.560><c> other</c><00:31:45.720><c> words,</c><00:31:46.280><c> if</c>

00:31:46.470 --> 00:31:46.480 align:start position:0%
the actual endpoint. In other words, if
 

00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:48.390 align:start position:0%
the actual endpoint. In other words, if
I<00:31:46.600><c> call</c><00:31:46.960><c> the</c><00:31:47.200><c> the</c><00:31:47.320><c> login</c><00:31:47.760><c> function</c><00:31:48.160><c> from</c><00:31:48.280><c> the</c>

00:31:48.390 --> 00:31:48.400 align:start position:0%
I call the the login function from the
 

00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:49.910 align:start position:0%
I call the the login function from the
client,

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client,
 

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client,
it<00:31:50.040><c> will</c><00:31:50.240><c> run</c><00:31:50.640><c> this</c><00:31:50.840><c> precondition.</c>

00:31:52.630 --> 00:31:52.640 align:start position:0%
it will run this precondition.
 

00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:55.030 align:start position:0%
it will run this precondition.
But,<00:31:53.000><c> if</c><00:31:53.240><c> login</c><00:31:53.640><c> itself</c><00:31:54.040><c> calls</c><00:31:54.360><c> another</c><00:31:54.680><c> API</c>

00:31:55.030 --> 00:31:55.040 align:start position:0%
But, if login itself calls another API
 

00:31:55.040 --> 00:31:56.470 align:start position:0%
But, if login itself calls another API
function

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function
 

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function
internally,<00:31:56.960><c> like</c><00:31:57.120><c> sometimes</c><00:31:57.480><c> when</c><00:31:57.760><c> when</c><00:31:57.880><c> you</c>

00:31:57.990 --> 00:31:58.000 align:start position:0%
internally, like sometimes when when you
 

00:31:58.000 --> 00:31:59.790 align:start position:0%
internally, like sometimes when when you
register<00:31:58.400><c> someone,</c><00:31:59.080><c> you</c><00:31:59.200><c> want</c><00:31:59.320><c> to</c><00:31:59.400><c> log</c><00:31:59.640><c> them</c>

00:31:59.790 --> 00:31:59.800 align:start position:0%
register someone, you want to log them
 

00:31:59.800 --> 00:32:01.230 align:start position:0%
register someone, you want to log them
in<00:31:59.920><c> then,</c><00:32:00.080><c> right?</c><00:32:00.680><c> So,</c><00:32:00.760><c> it'd</c><00:32:00.840><c> be</c><00:32:00.920><c> nice</c><00:32:01.120><c> to</c><00:32:01.200><c> be</c>

00:32:01.230 --> 00:32:01.240 align:start position:0%
in then, right? So, it'd be nice to be
 

00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:03.270 align:start position:0%
in then, right? So, it'd be nice to be
able<00:32:01.400><c> to</c><00:32:01.480><c> just</c><00:32:01.600><c> call</c><00:32:01.800><c> that</c><00:32:01.920><c> API</c><00:32:02.240><c> function,</c><00:32:03.160><c> so</c>

00:32:03.270 --> 00:32:03.280 align:start position:0%
able to just call that API function, so
 

00:32:03.280 --> 00:32:04.270 align:start position:0%
able to just call that API function, so
it<00:32:03.360><c> doesn't</c><00:32:03.640><c> trigger</c><00:32:03.920><c> any</c><00:32:04.120><c> of</c><00:32:04.200><c> the</c>

00:32:04.270 --> 00:32:04.280 align:start position:0%
it doesn't trigger any of the
 

00:32:04.280 --> 00:32:06.390 align:start position:0%
it doesn't trigger any of the
authentication<00:32:04.880><c> stuff</c><00:32:05.120><c> there.</c>

00:32:06.390 --> 00:32:06.400 align:start position:0%
authentication stuff there.
 

00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:09.630 align:start position:0%
authentication stuff there.
You<00:32:06.480><c> know,</c><00:32:06.600><c> it</c><00:32:06.680><c> just</c><00:32:06.840><c> calls</c><00:32:07.080><c> right</c><00:32:07.280><c> through.</c>

00:32:09.630 --> 00:32:09.640 align:start position:0%
You know, it just calls right through.
 

00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:12.270 align:start position:0%
You know, it just calls right through.
And<00:32:10.120><c> uh</c><00:32:10.200><c> so,</c><00:32:10.360><c> the</c><00:32:10.480><c> query</c><00:32:11.520><c> uh</c><00:32:11.720><c> the</c><00:32:11.840><c> query</c>

00:32:12.270 --> 00:32:12.280 align:start position:0%
And uh so, the query uh the query
 

00:32:12.280 --> 00:32:14.270 align:start position:0%
And uh so, the query uh the query
annotation<00:32:12.800><c> here</c><00:32:13.440><c> is</c><00:32:13.760><c> so</c><00:32:13.880><c> that</c><00:32:14.040><c> you</c><00:32:14.120><c> could</c>

00:32:14.270 --> 00:32:14.280 align:start position:0%
annotation here is so that you could
 

00:32:14.280 --> 00:32:18.150 align:start position:0%
annotation here is so that you could
return<00:32:14.840><c> that</c><00:32:15.120><c> CQRS</c><00:32:16.560><c> state</c><00:32:16.920><c> query.</c>

00:32:18.150 --> 00:32:18.160 align:start position:0%
return that CQRS state query.
 

00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:20.270 align:start position:0%
return that CQRS state query.
And<00:32:18.520><c> this</c><00:32:18.680><c> allows</c><00:32:19.040><c> you</c><00:32:19.120><c> at</c><00:32:19.200><c> the</c><00:32:19.320><c> REPL</c><00:32:19.920><c> uh</c><00:32:20.080><c> this</c>

00:32:20.270 --> 00:32:20.280 align:start position:0%
And this allows you at the REPL uh this
 

00:32:20.280 --> 00:32:21.750 align:start position:0%
And this allows you at the REPL uh this
function<00:32:20.600><c> could</c><00:32:20.720><c> actually</c><00:32:21.000><c> return</c><00:32:21.400><c> one</c><00:32:21.560><c> thing</c>

00:32:21.750 --> 00:32:21.760 align:start position:0%
function could actually return one thing
 

00:32:21.760 --> 00:32:23.550 align:start position:0%
function could actually return one thing
at<00:32:21.880><c> the</c><00:32:21.960><c> REPL,</c><00:32:22.680><c> which</c><00:32:22.840><c> might</c><00:32:22.960><c> be</c><00:32:23.080><c> useful</c><00:32:23.400><c> for</c>

00:32:23.550 --> 00:32:23.560 align:start position:0%
at the REPL, which might be useful for
 

00:32:23.560 --> 00:32:25.590 align:start position:0%
at the REPL, which might be useful for
you<00:32:23.680><c> when</c><00:32:23.800><c> you're</c><00:32:23.960><c> coding</c><00:32:24.320><c> it,</c><00:32:24.880><c> but</c><00:32:25.360><c> when</c><00:32:25.480><c> an</c>

00:32:25.590 --> 00:32:25.600 align:start position:0%
you when you're coding it, but when an
 

00:32:25.600 --> 00:32:27.630 align:start position:0%
you when you're coding it, but when an
HTTP<00:32:26.040><c> client</c><00:32:26.360><c> connects,</c><00:32:26.760><c> they</c><00:32:26.880><c> get</c><00:32:27.120><c> back</c><00:32:27.400><c> this</c>

00:32:27.630 --> 00:32:27.640 align:start position:0%
HTTP client connects, they get back this
 

00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:31.590 align:start position:0%
HTTP client connects, they get back this
state,<00:32:28.680><c> you</c><00:32:28.800><c> know,</c><00:32:28.920><c> this</c><00:32:29.120><c> state</c><00:32:29.400><c> map.</c>

00:32:31.590 --> 00:32:31.600 align:start position:0%
state, you know, this state map.
 

00:32:31.600 --> 00:32:32.190 align:start position:0%
state, you know, this state map.
Yes.

00:32:32.190 --> 00:32:32.200 align:start position:0%
Yes.
 

00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:34.630 align:start position:0%
Yes.
What's<00:32:32.600><c> the</c><00:32:32.880><c> CQRS?</c>

00:32:34.630 --> 00:32:34.640 align:start position:0%
What's the CQRS?
 

00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:36.270 align:start position:0%
What's the CQRS?
Question<00:32:34.880><c> was,</c><00:32:35.040><c> what</c><00:32:35.160><c> is</c><00:32:35.240><c> CQRS?</c><00:32:36.000><c> I</c><00:32:36.040><c> can</c><00:32:36.160><c> take</c>

00:32:36.270 --> 00:32:36.280 align:start position:0%
Question was, what is CQRS? I can take
 

00:32:36.280 --> 00:32:36.670 align:start position:0%
Question was, what is CQRS? I can take
that<00:32:36.400><c> one.</c>

00:32:36.670 --> 00:32:36.680 align:start position:0%
that one.
 

00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:37.270 align:start position:0%
that one.
Yeah,<00:32:36.880><c> please.</c>

00:32:37.270 --> 00:32:37.280 align:start position:0%
Yeah, please.
 

00:32:37.280 --> 00:32:39.750 align:start position:0%
Yeah, please.
Yeah,<00:32:37.440><c> so</c><00:32:37.840><c> um</c><00:32:38.480><c> all</c><00:32:38.720><c> of</c><00:32:38.800><c> this</c><00:32:39.040><c> is</c><00:32:39.160><c> to</c><00:32:39.280><c> serve</c><00:32:39.560><c> one</c>

00:32:39.750 --> 00:32:39.760 align:start position:0%
Yeah, so um all of this is to serve one
 

00:32:39.760 --> 00:32:41.470 align:start position:0%
Yeah, so um all of this is to serve one
end,<00:32:39.960><c> which</c><00:32:40.120><c> is</c><00:32:40.240><c> basically</c><00:32:40.800><c> to</c><00:32:40.960><c> be</c><00:32:41.080><c> able</c><00:32:41.360><c> to</c>

00:32:41.470 --> 00:32:41.480 align:start position:0%
end, which is basically to be able to
 

00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:43.550 align:start position:0%
end, which is basically to be able to
conceive<00:32:42.120><c> of</c><00:32:42.280><c> when</c><00:32:42.400><c> we're</c><00:32:42.520><c> programming</c><00:32:43.440><c> the</c>

00:32:43.550 --> 00:32:43.560 align:start position:0%
conceive of when we're programming the
 

00:32:43.560 --> 00:32:45.950 align:start position:0%
conceive of when we're programming the
server<00:32:44.080><c> as</c><00:32:44.400><c> part</c><00:32:44.560><c> of</c><00:32:44.680><c> our</c><00:32:44.760><c> spreadsheet.</c><00:32:45.880><c> So,</c>

00:32:45.950 --> 00:32:45.960 align:start position:0%
server as part of our spreadsheet. So,
 

00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:47.590 align:start position:0%
server as part of our spreadsheet. So,
the<00:32:46.040><c> same</c><00:32:46.280><c> way</c><00:32:46.640><c> um</c><00:32:46.880><c> someone</c><00:32:47.120><c> who's</c><00:32:47.240><c> interested</c>

00:32:47.590 --> 00:32:47.600 align:start position:0%
the same way um someone who's interested
 

00:32:47.600 --> 00:32:49.030 align:start position:0%
the same way um someone who's interested
in<00:32:47.680><c> making</c><00:32:48.000><c> charts</c><00:32:48.400><c> over</c><00:32:48.560><c> an</c><00:32:48.640><c> existing</c>

00:32:49.030 --> 00:32:49.040 align:start position:0%
in making charts over an existing
 

00:32:49.040 --> 00:32:51.150 align:start position:0%
in making charts over an existing
spreadsheet<00:32:49.880><c> can</c><00:32:50.000><c> just</c><00:32:50.440><c> use</c><00:32:50.720><c> the</c><00:32:50.800><c> existing</c>

00:32:51.150 --> 00:32:51.160 align:start position:0%
spreadsheet can just use the existing
 

00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:53.470 align:start position:0%
spreadsheet can just use the existing
formulas<00:32:51.880><c> without</c><00:32:52.480><c> necessarily</c>

00:32:53.470 --> 00:32:53.480 align:start position:0%
formulas without necessarily
 

00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:54.590 align:start position:0%
formulas without necessarily
manipulating<00:32:54.040><c> any</c><00:32:54.160><c> of</c><00:32:54.240><c> the</c><00:32:54.320><c> data</c><00:32:54.520><c> or</c>

00:32:54.590 --> 00:32:54.600 align:start position:0%
manipulating any of the data or
 

00:32:54.600 --> 00:32:55.710 align:start position:0%
manipulating any of the data or
formulas.

00:32:55.710 --> 00:32:55.720 align:start position:0%
formulas.
 

00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:56.870 align:start position:0%
formulas.
We<00:32:55.800><c> want</c><00:32:55.920><c> to</c><00:32:56.000><c> look</c><00:32:56.120><c> at</c><00:32:56.200><c> the</c><00:32:56.240><c> server</c><00:32:56.520><c> the</c><00:32:56.640><c> same</c>

00:32:56.870 --> 00:32:56.880 align:start position:0%
We want to look at the server the same
 

00:32:56.880 --> 00:32:59.270 align:start position:0%
We want to look at the server the same
way.<00:32:57.280><c> So,</c><00:32:57.440><c> in</c><00:32:57.520><c> our</c><00:32:57.640><c> case</c><00:32:57.920><c> here,</c><00:32:58.640><c> the</c><00:32:58.760><c> server</c><00:32:59.120><c> is</c>

00:32:59.270 --> 00:32:59.280 align:start position:0%
way. So, in our case here, the server is
 

00:32:59.280 --> 00:33:00.790 align:start position:0%
way. So, in our case here, the server is
the<00:32:59.440><c> source</c><00:32:59.760><c> of</c><00:32:59.880><c> a</c><00:32:59.920><c> value,</c><00:33:00.480><c> which</c><00:33:00.640><c> is</c><00:33:00.720><c> the</c>

00:33:00.790 --> 00:33:00.800 align:start position:0%
the source of a value, which is the
 

00:33:00.800 --> 00:33:02.710 align:start position:0%
the source of a value, which is the
current<00:33:01.080><c> user's</c><00:33:01.440><c> state.</c>

00:33:02.710 --> 00:33:02.720 align:start position:0%
current user's state.
 

00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:04.670 align:start position:0%
current user's state.
Um<00:33:03.320><c> we</c><00:33:03.440><c> would</c><00:33:03.600><c> like</c><00:33:03.760><c> to</c><00:33:03.880><c> be</c><00:33:03.960><c> able</c><00:33:04.200><c> to</c><00:33:04.320><c> take</c><00:33:04.520><c> that</c>

00:33:04.670 --> 00:33:04.680 align:start position:0%
Um we would like to be able to take that
 

00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:06.990 align:start position:0%
Um we would like to be able to take that
value<00:33:05.040><c> and</c><00:33:05.200><c> aim</c><00:33:05.400><c> it</c><00:33:05.600><c> at</c><00:33:05.840><c> UI</c><00:33:06.120><c> elements,</c><00:33:06.760><c> like</c>

00:33:06.990 --> 00:33:07.000 align:start position:0%
value and aim it at UI elements, like
 

00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:08.150 align:start position:0%
value and aim it at UI elements, like
this<00:33:07.200><c> little</c><00:33:07.360><c> box</c><00:33:07.640><c> here</c><00:33:07.800><c> should</c><00:33:07.960><c> be</c><00:33:08.040><c> the</c>

00:33:08.150 --> 00:33:08.160 align:start position:0%
this little box here should be the
 

00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:09.390 align:start position:0%
this little box here should be the
person's<00:33:08.480><c> name</c><00:33:08.800><c> and</c><00:33:08.880><c> this</c><00:33:09.000><c> should</c><00:33:09.120><c> be</c><00:33:09.280><c> the</c>

00:33:09.390 --> 00:33:09.400 align:start position:0%
person's name and this should be the
 

00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:11.230 align:start position:0%
person's name and this should be the
number<00:33:09.640><c> of</c><00:33:09.720><c> buddies</c><00:33:10.040><c> or</c><00:33:10.080><c> whatever.</c>

00:33:11.230 --> 00:33:11.240 align:start position:0%
number of buddies or whatever.
 

00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:12.710 align:start position:0%
number of buddies or whatever.
Um<00:33:11.440><c> we</c><00:33:11.560><c> want</c><00:33:11.720><c> to</c><00:33:11.760><c> con-</c><00:33:12.000><c> consider</c><00:33:12.320><c> the</c><00:33:12.400><c> server</c>

00:33:12.710 --> 00:33:12.720 align:start position:0%
Um we want to con- consider the server
 

00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:15.430 align:start position:0%
Um we want to con- consider the server
as<00:33:13.040><c> like</c><00:33:13.200><c> kind</c><00:33:13.360><c> of</c><00:33:13.440><c> a</c><00:33:13.480><c> remote</c><00:33:14.200><c> cell.</c>

00:33:15.430 --> 00:33:15.440 align:start position:0%
as like kind of a remote cell.
 

00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:18.310 align:start position:0%
as like kind of a remote cell.
CQRS<00:33:16.440><c> uh</c><00:33:16.600><c> stands</c><00:33:16.920><c> for</c><00:33:17.160><c> command</c><00:33:17.680><c> query</c>

00:33:18.310 --> 00:33:18.320 align:start position:0%
CQRS uh stands for command query
 

00:33:18.320 --> 00:33:20.950 align:start position:0%
CQRS uh stands for command query
response<00:33:19.360><c> separation.</c>

00:33:20.950 --> 00:33:20.960 align:start position:0%
response separation.
 

00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:22.510 align:start position:0%
response separation.
Is<00:33:21.000><c> that</c><00:33:21.400><c> ish?</c>

00:33:22.510 --> 00:33:22.520 align:start position:0%
Is that ish?
 

00:33:22.520 --> 00:33:25.070 align:start position:0%
Is that ish?
Martin<00:33:22.800><c> Fowler.</c><00:33:23.360><c> Martin</c><00:33:23.600><c> Fowler</c><00:33:23.880><c> has</c><00:33:24.000><c> a</c><00:33:24.080><c> good</c>

00:33:25.070 --> 00:33:25.080 align:start position:0%
Martin Fowler. Martin Fowler has a good
 

00:33:25.080 --> 00:33:25.510 align:start position:0%
Martin Fowler. Martin Fowler has a good
Well,

00:33:25.510 --> 00:33:25.520 align:start position:0%
Well,
 

00:33:25.520 --> 00:33:28.030 align:start position:0%
Well,
Yeah,<00:33:25.640><c> Martin</c><00:33:25.840><c> Fowler</c><00:33:26.040><c> has</c><00:33:26.160><c> the</c><00:33:26.240><c> write-up.</c><00:33:26.800><c> Uh</c>

00:33:28.030 --> 00:33:28.040 align:start position:0%
Yeah, Martin Fowler has the write-up. Uh
 

00:33:28.040 --> 00:33:29.590 align:start position:0%
Yeah, Martin Fowler has the write-up. Uh
Anyway,<00:33:28.200><c> if</c><00:33:28.280><c> you</c><00:33:28.360><c> type</c><00:33:28.600><c> in</c><00:33:28.720><c> CQRS</c><00:33:29.360><c> Martin</c>

00:33:29.590 --> 00:33:29.600 align:start position:0%
Anyway, if you type in CQRS Martin
 

00:33:29.600 --> 00:33:31.510 align:start position:0%
Anyway, if you type in CQRS Martin
Fowler,<00:33:29.880><c> you'll</c><00:33:30.080><c> you'll</c><00:33:30.240><c> get</c><00:33:30.400><c> to</c><00:33:30.480><c> the</c><00:33:31.320><c> one</c><00:33:31.440><c> of</c>

00:33:31.510 --> 00:33:31.520 align:start position:0%
Fowler, you'll you'll get to the one of
 

00:33:31.520 --> 00:33:33.030 align:start position:0%
Fowler, you'll you'll get to the one of
the<00:33:31.760><c> the</c><00:33:31.880><c> source</c><00:33:32.120><c> documents.</c><00:33:32.920><c> But,</c>

00:33:33.030 --> 00:33:33.040 align:start position:0%
the the source documents. But,
 

00:33:33.040 --> 00:33:34.790 align:start position:0%
the the source documents. But,
basically,<00:33:33.480><c> it's</c><00:33:33.680><c> a</c><00:33:33.800><c> it's</c><00:33:33.960><c> a</c><00:33:34.000><c> fancy</c><00:33:34.360><c> term</c><00:33:34.680><c> for</c>

00:33:34.790 --> 00:33:34.800 align:start position:0%
basically, it's a it's a fancy term for
 

00:33:34.800 --> 00:33:37.190 align:start position:0%
basically, it's a it's a fancy term for
the<00:33:34.920><c> same</c><00:33:35.320><c> kind</c><00:33:35.600><c> of</c><00:33:35.720><c> pattern.</c><00:33:36.680><c> Where</c><00:33:36.960><c> I</c><00:33:37.000><c> have</c><00:33:37.120><c> a</c>

00:33:37.190 --> 00:33:37.200 align:start position:0%
the same kind of pattern. Where I have a
 

00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:38.710 align:start position:0%
the same kind of pattern. Where I have a
source<00:33:37.480><c> of</c><00:33:37.560><c> events,</c><00:33:38.040><c> which</c><00:33:38.160><c> in</c><00:33:38.240><c> our</c><00:33:38.360><c> case</c><00:33:38.600><c> is</c>

00:33:38.710 --> 00:33:38.720 align:start position:0%
source of events, which in our case is
 

00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:40.550 align:start position:0%
source of events, which in our case is
the<00:33:38.840><c> user.</c><00:33:39.600><c> Those</c><00:33:39.760><c> events</c><00:33:40.040><c> are</c><00:33:40.120><c> streaming</c>

00:33:40.550 --> 00:33:40.560 align:start position:0%
the user. Those events are streaming
 

00:33:40.560 --> 00:33:42.870 align:start position:0%
the user. Those events are streaming
into<00:33:40.960><c> some</c><00:33:41.160><c> remote</c><00:33:41.560><c> remote</c><00:33:42.120><c> data</c><00:33:42.360><c> store,</c>

00:33:42.870 --> 00:33:42.880 align:start position:0%
into some remote remote data store,
 

00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:45.310 align:start position:0%
into some remote remote data store,
Datomic.<00:33:43.960><c> And</c><00:33:44.280><c> we</c><00:33:44.400><c> have</c><00:33:44.520><c> formula</c><00:33:44.960><c> cells,</c>

00:33:45.310 --> 00:33:45.320 align:start position:0%
Datomic. And we have formula cells,
 

00:33:45.320 --> 00:33:47.870 align:start position:0%
Datomic. And we have formula cells,
which<00:33:45.800><c> are</c><00:33:45.880><c> calculating</c><00:33:46.440><c> the</c><00:33:46.520><c> user's</c><00:33:46.840><c> state.</c>

00:33:47.870 --> 00:33:47.880 align:start position:0%
which are calculating the user's state.
 

00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:50.110 align:start position:0%
which are calculating the user's state.
Um<00:33:48.360><c> and</c><00:33:48.640><c> those</c><00:33:48.800><c> would</c><00:33:48.880><c> be</c><00:33:49.000><c> Datomic</c><00:33:49.400><c> queries.</c>

00:33:50.110 --> 00:33:50.120 align:start position:0%
Um and those would be Datomic queries.
 

00:33:50.120 --> 00:33:52.350 align:start position:0%
Um and those would be Datomic queries.
We<00:33:50.280><c> periodically</c><00:33:50.920><c> want</c><00:33:51.120><c> to</c><00:33:51.200><c> update</c><00:33:51.520><c> the</c><00:33:51.600><c> UI</c>

00:33:52.350 --> 00:33:52.360 align:start position:0%
We periodically want to update the UI
 

00:33:52.360 --> 00:33:53.750 align:start position:0%
We periodically want to update the UI
based<00:33:52.560><c> on</c><00:33:52.680><c> what</c><00:33:52.800><c> we</c><00:33:52.880><c> pull</c><00:33:53.040><c> from</c><00:33:53.160><c> Datomic.</c><00:33:53.640><c> We</c>

00:33:53.750 --> 00:33:53.760 align:start position:0%
based on what we pull from Datomic. We
 

00:33:53.760 --> 00:33:55.670 align:start position:0%
based on what we pull from Datomic. We
want<00:33:53.920><c> to</c><00:33:53.960><c> do</c><00:33:54.080><c> that</c><00:33:54.320><c> in</c><00:33:54.440><c> a</c><00:33:54.880><c> a</c><00:33:54.920><c> unidirectional</c>

00:33:55.670 --> 00:33:55.680 align:start position:0%
want to do that in a a unidirectional
 

00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:57.630 align:start position:0%
want to do that in a a unidirectional
data<00:33:55.920><c> flow</c><00:33:56.160><c> kind</c><00:33:56.280><c> of</c><00:33:56.400><c> way.</c>

00:33:57.630 --> 00:33:57.640 align:start position:0%
data flow kind of way.
 

00:33:57.640 --> 00:33:58.910 align:start position:0%
data flow kind of way.
Yeah,<00:33:57.800><c> I</c><00:33:57.840><c> think</c><00:33:58.120><c> I</c><00:33:58.160><c> think</c><00:33:58.360><c> to</c><00:33:58.440><c> think</c><00:33:58.600><c> about</c><00:33:58.840><c> is</c>

00:33:58.910 --> 00:33:58.920 align:start position:0%
Yeah, I think I think to think about is
 

00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:00.630 align:start position:0%
Yeah, I think I think to think about is
like<00:33:59.160><c> if</c><00:33:59.320><c> you</c><00:33:59.400><c> have</c><00:33:59.600><c> a</c><00:33:59.880><c> a</c><00:33:59.920><c> function</c><00:34:00.280><c> that</c><00:34:00.440><c> does</c>

00:34:00.630 --> 00:34:00.640 align:start position:0%
like if you have a a function that does
 

00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:03.190 align:start position:0%
like if you have a a function that does
an<00:34:00.720><c> Ajax</c><00:34:01.040><c> call</c><00:34:01.760><c> to</c><00:34:01.960><c> the</c><00:34:02.080><c> server,</c><00:34:02.920><c> like</c><00:34:03.120><c> the</c>

00:34:03.190 --> 00:34:03.200 align:start position:0%
an Ajax call to the server, like the
 

00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:05.150 align:start position:0%
an Ajax call to the server, like the
login<00:34:03.560><c> function,</c><00:34:04.320><c> a</c><00:34:04.360><c> lot</c><00:34:04.520><c> of</c><00:34:04.560><c> times</c><00:34:04.800><c> you'll</c><00:34:05.000><c> be</c>

00:34:05.150 --> 00:34:05.160 align:start position:0%
login function, a lot of times you'll be
 

00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.510 align:start position:0%
login function, a lot of times you'll be
saying,<00:34:05.640><c> "Okay,</c><00:34:06.040><c> here's</c><00:34:06.280><c> a</c><00:34:06.320><c> callback</c><00:34:06.960><c> and,</c>

00:34:07.510 --> 00:34:07.520 align:start position:0%
saying, "Okay, here's a callback and,
 

00:34:07.520 --> 00:34:09.710 align:start position:0%
saying, "Okay, here's a callback and,
you<00:34:07.640><c> know,</c><00:34:07.760><c> if</c><00:34:07.880><c> the</c><00:34:07.960><c> server</c><00:34:08.240><c> returns</c><00:34:08.720><c> true,</c>

00:34:09.710 --> 00:34:09.720 align:start position:0%
you know, if the server returns true,
 

00:34:09.720 --> 00:34:11.669 align:start position:0%
you know, if the server returns true,
then<00:34:10.480><c> I'm</c><00:34:10.600><c> going</c><00:34:10.720><c> to</c><00:34:10.760><c> do</c><00:34:10.919><c> this.</c><00:34:11.399><c> And</c><00:34:11.520><c> if</c><00:34:11.600><c> it</c>

00:34:11.669 --> 00:34:11.679 align:start position:0%
then I'm going to do this. And if it
 

00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:12.830 align:start position:0%
then I'm going to do this. And if it
returns<00:34:12.040><c> false,</c><00:34:12.399><c> then</c><00:34:12.480><c> I'm</c><00:34:12.520><c> going</c><00:34:12.639><c> to</c><00:34:12.720><c> do</c>

00:34:12.830 --> 00:34:12.840 align:start position:0%
returns false, then I'm going to do
 

00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:14.830 align:start position:0%
returns false, then I'm going to do
that,<00:34:13.080><c> right?"</c><00:34:13.960><c> So,</c><00:34:14.280><c> but</c><00:34:14.440><c> the</c><00:34:14.520><c> things</c><00:34:14.760><c> you</c>

00:34:14.830 --> 00:34:14.840 align:start position:0%
that, right?" So, but the things you
 

00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:16.430 align:start position:0%
that, right?" So, but the things you
generally<00:34:15.200><c> want</c><00:34:15.320><c> to</c><00:34:15.399><c> do</c><00:34:15.639><c> is,</c><00:34:16.240><c> you</c><00:34:16.320><c> know,</c>

00:34:16.430 --> 00:34:16.440 align:start position:0%
generally want to do is, you know,
 

00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:17.470 align:start position:0%
generally want to do is, you know,
change<00:34:16.679><c> the</c><00:34:16.760><c> state</c><00:34:16.919><c> of</c><00:34:17.000><c> the</c><00:34:17.040><c> application,</c>

00:34:17.470 --> 00:34:17.480 align:start position:0%
change the state of the application,
 

00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:19.230 align:start position:0%
change the state of the application,
like<00:34:17.600><c> I</c><00:34:17.679><c> want</c><00:34:17.840><c> to</c><00:34:17.879><c> show</c><00:34:18.120><c> you</c><00:34:18.639><c> uh</c><00:34:18.720><c> an</c><00:34:18.840><c> error,</c><00:34:19.200><c> a</c>

00:34:19.230 --> 00:34:19.240 align:start position:0%
like I want to show you uh an error, a
 

00:34:19.240 --> 00:34:21.830 align:start position:0%
like I want to show you uh an error, a
flash<00:34:19.600><c> message,</c><00:34:20.320><c> like</c><00:34:20.960><c> incorrect</c><00:34:21.399><c> password</c>

00:34:21.830 --> 00:34:21.840 align:start position:0%
flash message, like incorrect password
 

00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:23.110 align:start position:0%
flash message, like incorrect password
or<00:34:21.919><c> something,</c><00:34:22.240><c> right?</c><00:34:22.720><c> But,</c><00:34:22.840><c> that</c><00:34:22.960><c> means</c>

00:34:23.110 --> 00:34:23.120 align:start position:0%
or something, right? But, that means
 

00:34:23.120 --> 00:34:24.909 align:start position:0%
or something, right? But, that means
that<00:34:23.320><c> like</c><00:34:23.800><c> this</c><00:34:23.960><c> piece</c><00:34:24.159><c> of</c><00:34:24.280><c> code</c><00:34:24.520><c> that</c><00:34:24.639><c> sends</c>

00:34:24.909 --> 00:34:24.919 align:start position:0%
that like this piece of code that sends
 

00:34:24.919 --> 00:34:26.750 align:start position:0%
that like this piece of code that sends
off<00:34:25.080><c> the</c><00:34:25.159><c> request</c><00:34:25.520><c> to</c><00:34:25.600><c> login,</c><00:34:26.240><c> now</c><00:34:26.399><c> needs</c><00:34:26.639><c> to</c>

00:34:26.750 --> 00:34:26.760 align:start position:0%
off the request to login, now needs to
 

00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:29.030 align:start position:0%
off the request to login, now needs to
know<00:34:27.000><c> about</c><00:34:27.520><c> what</c><00:34:27.760><c> to</c><00:34:27.879><c> do</c>

00:34:29.030 --> 00:34:29.040 align:start position:0%
know about what to do
 

00:34:29.040 --> 00:34:30.629 align:start position:0%
know about what to do
with<00:34:29.240><c> the</c><00:34:29.320><c> response.</c>

00:34:30.629 --> 00:34:30.639 align:start position:0%
with the response.
 

00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:32.790 align:start position:0%
with the response.
And<00:34:31.000><c> it</c><00:34:31.120><c> has</c><00:34:31.280><c> to</c><00:34:31.399><c> know</c><00:34:31.840><c> where</c><00:34:32.159><c> to</c><00:34:32.280><c> go</c><00:34:32.440><c> to</c><00:34:32.600><c> do</c>

00:34:32.790 --> 00:34:32.800 align:start position:0%
And it has to know where to go to do
 

00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:34.909 align:start position:0%
And it has to know where to go to do
that,<00:34:33.240><c> right?</c><00:34:33.600><c> And</c><00:34:33.720><c> it</c><00:34:33.840><c> has</c><00:34:34.040><c> to</c><00:34:34.120><c> now</c><00:34:34.320><c> cooperate</c>

00:34:34.909 --> 00:34:34.919 align:start position:0%
that, right? And it has to now cooperate
 

00:34:34.919 --> 00:34:35.710 align:start position:0%
that, right? And it has to now cooperate
with<00:34:35.040><c> these</c><00:34:35.200><c> other</c><00:34:35.360><c> parts</c><00:34:35.600><c> of</c><00:34:35.639><c> your</c>

00:34:35.710 --> 00:34:35.720 align:start position:0%
with these other parts of your
 

00:34:35.720 --> 00:34:37.550 align:start position:0%
with these other parts of your
application.<00:34:36.720><c> And</c><00:34:36.840><c> now</c><00:34:36.960><c> imagine</c><00:34:37.320><c> that</c><00:34:37.440><c> you</c>

00:34:37.550 --> 00:34:37.560 align:start position:0%
application. And now imagine that you
 

00:34:37.560 --> 00:34:40.310 align:start position:0%
application. And now imagine that you
have<00:34:38.320><c> 10</c><00:34:38.560><c> buttons</c><00:34:38.919><c> on</c><00:34:39.000><c> the</c><00:34:39.080><c> page,</c><00:34:39.960><c> right?</c><00:34:40.200><c> And</c>

00:34:40.310 --> 00:34:40.320 align:start position:0%
have 10 buttons on the page, right? And
 

00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:41.590 align:start position:0%
have 10 buttons on the page, right? And
you<00:34:40.399><c> could</c><00:34:40.560><c> click</c><00:34:40.800><c> any</c><00:34:41.000><c> one</c><00:34:41.120><c> of</c><00:34:41.200><c> them</c><00:34:41.320><c> in</c><00:34:41.440><c> any</c>

00:34:41.590 --> 00:34:41.600 align:start position:0%
you could click any one of them in any
 

00:34:41.600 --> 00:34:43.470 align:start position:0%
you could click any one of them in any
order.<00:34:42.360><c> So,</c><00:34:42.480><c> now</c><00:34:42.639><c> you</c><00:34:42.760><c> run</c><00:34:42.879><c> into</c><00:34:43.040><c> all</c><00:34:43.159><c> kinds</c><00:34:43.399><c> of</c>

00:34:43.470 --> 00:34:43.480 align:start position:0%
order. So, now you run into all kinds of
 

00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:45.470 align:start position:0%
order. So, now you run into all kinds of
synchronization<00:34:44.120><c> issues</c><00:34:44.480><c> like,</c><00:34:45.080><c> you</c><00:34:45.200><c> know,</c>

00:34:45.470 --> 00:34:45.480 align:start position:0%
synchronization issues like, you know,
 

00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:46.750 align:start position:0%
synchronization issues like, you know,
should<00:34:45.720><c> it</c><00:34:45.840><c> Do</c><00:34:45.960><c> I</c><00:34:46.000><c> need</c><00:34:46.120><c> to</c><00:34:46.200><c> disable</c><00:34:46.560><c> this</c>

00:34:46.750 --> 00:34:46.760 align:start position:0%
should it Do I need to disable this
 

00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:48.669 align:start position:0%
should it Do I need to disable this
button<00:34:47.159><c> when</c><00:34:47.679><c> when</c><00:34:47.840><c> I</c><00:34:47.919><c> press</c><00:34:48.159><c> this</c><00:34:48.360><c> button</c><00:34:48.560><c> and</c>

00:34:48.669 --> 00:34:48.679 align:start position:0%
button when when I press this button and
 

00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:50.070 align:start position:0%
button when when I press this button and
so<00:34:48.800><c> on?</c><00:34:49.200><c> So,</c><00:34:49.320><c> now</c><00:34:49.440><c> all</c><00:34:49.520><c> these</c><00:34:49.679><c> things</c><00:34:49.879><c> have</c><00:34:50.000><c> to</c>

00:34:50.070 --> 00:34:50.080 align:start position:0%
so on? So, now all these things have to
 

00:34:50.080 --> 00:34:52.030 align:start position:0%
so on? So, now all these things have to
know<00:34:50.240><c> about</c><00:34:50.520><c> each</c><00:34:50.679><c> other</c><00:34:50.879><c> very</c><00:34:51.120><c> intimately.</c>

00:34:52.030 --> 00:34:52.040 align:start position:0%
know about each other very intimately.
 

00:34:52.040 --> 00:34:53.669 align:start position:0%
know about each other very intimately.
And<00:34:52.159><c> then</c><00:34:52.280><c> you</c><00:34:52.399><c> change</c><00:34:52.720><c> something</c><00:34:53.520><c> and</c><00:34:53.639><c> you</c>

00:34:53.669 --> 00:34:53.679 align:start position:0%
And then you change something and you
 

00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:55.350 align:start position:0%
And then you change something and you
don't<00:34:53.840><c> know</c><00:34:53.960><c> what's</c><00:34:54.120><c> going</c><00:34:54.240><c> to</c><00:34:54.320><c> happen.</c>

00:34:55.350 --> 00:34:55.360 align:start position:0%
don't know what's going to happen.
 

00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:57.750 align:start position:0%
don't know what's going to happen.
Whereas<00:34:55.600><c> with</c><00:34:55.760><c> CQRS,</c>

00:34:57.750 --> 00:34:57.760 align:start position:0%
Whereas with CQRS,
 

00:34:57.760 --> 00:34:59.430 align:start position:0%
Whereas with CQRS,
things<00:34:58.160><c> just</c><00:34:58.360><c> fire</c><00:34:58.640><c> and</c><00:34:58.760><c> forget.</c><00:34:59.120><c> You</c><00:34:59.200><c> send</c><00:34:59.400><c> a</c>

00:34:59.430 --> 00:34:59.440 align:start position:0%
things just fire and forget. You send a
 

00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:01.350 align:start position:0%
things just fire and forget. You send a
message<00:34:59.800><c> to</c><00:34:59.880><c> the</c><00:35:00.000><c> server</c><00:35:00.840><c> and</c><00:35:01.000><c> what</c><00:35:01.120><c> comes</c>

00:35:01.350 --> 00:35:01.360 align:start position:0%
message to the server and what comes
 

00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:03.190 align:start position:0%
message to the server and what comes
back<00:35:01.680><c> is</c><00:35:01.840><c> the</c><00:35:01.920><c> next</c><00:35:02.280><c> state</c><00:35:02.760><c> of</c><00:35:02.880><c> a</c><00:35:02.920><c> state</c>

00:35:03.190 --> 00:35:03.200 align:start position:0%
back is the next state of a state
 

00:35:03.200 --> 00:35:04.790 align:start position:0%
back is the next state of a state
machine,<00:35:04.000><c> which</c><00:35:04.200><c> could</c><00:35:04.360><c> actually</c><00:35:04.600><c> be</c><00:35:04.680><c> the</c>

00:35:04.790 --> 00:35:04.800 align:start position:0%
machine, which could actually be the
 

00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.270 align:start position:0%
machine, which could actually be the
same<00:35:05.320><c> as</c><00:35:05.480><c> the</c><00:35:05.600><c> current</c><00:35:05.840><c> state.</c><00:35:06.720><c> Like,</c><00:35:06.960><c> nothing</c>

00:35:07.270 --> 00:35:07.280 align:start position:0%
same as the current state. Like, nothing
 

00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:08.510 align:start position:0%
same as the current state. Like, nothing
might<00:35:07.440><c> happen</c><00:35:07.680><c> on</c><00:35:07.760><c> the</c><00:35:07.840><c> server</c><00:35:08.120><c> that</c><00:35:08.240><c> you</c><00:35:08.360><c> care</c>

00:35:08.510 --> 00:35:08.520 align:start position:0%
might happen on the server that you care
 

00:35:08.520 --> 00:35:10.430 align:start position:0%
might happen on the server that you care
about,<00:35:09.240><c> right?</c><00:35:09.720><c> And</c><00:35:09.840><c> so</c><00:35:09.920><c> then</c><00:35:10.080><c> nothing</c><00:35:10.320><c> will</c>

00:35:10.430 --> 00:35:10.440 align:start position:0%
about, right? And so then nothing will
 

00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:13.030 align:start position:0%
about, right? And so then nothing will
change.<00:35:11.440><c> Or</c><00:35:11.600><c> something</c><00:35:11.920><c> could</c><00:35:12.160><c> happen,</c><00:35:12.560><c> but</c>

00:35:13.030 --> 00:35:13.040 align:start position:0%
change. Or something could happen, but
 

00:35:13.040 --> 00:35:14.430 align:start position:0%
change. Or something could happen, but
you<00:35:13.160><c> don't</c><00:35:13.320><c> need</c><00:35:13.440><c> to</c><00:35:13.520><c> know</c><00:35:13.640><c> about</c><00:35:13.880><c> it</c><00:35:13.960><c> here.</c>

00:35:14.430 --> 00:35:14.440 align:start position:0%
you don't need to know about it here.
 

00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:15.590 align:start position:0%
you don't need to know about it here.
There's<00:35:14.600><c> something</c><00:35:14.840><c> that's</c><00:35:15.040><c> looking</c><00:35:15.360><c> at</c><00:35:15.480><c> our</c>

00:35:15.590 --> 00:35:15.600 align:start position:0%
There's something that's looking at our
 

00:35:15.600 --> 00:35:17.910 align:start position:0%
There's something that's looking at our
state<00:35:16.120><c> model</c><00:35:16.840><c> and</c><00:35:17.000><c> saying,</c><00:35:17.280><c> "Okay,</c><00:35:17.640><c> when</c>

00:35:17.910 --> 00:35:17.920 align:start position:0%
state model and saying, "Okay, when
 

00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:19.070 align:start position:0%
state model and saying, "Okay, when
there's<00:35:18.120><c> stuff</c><00:35:18.360><c> in</c><00:35:18.440><c> the</c><00:35:18.480><c> shopping</c><00:35:18.840><c> cart,</c><00:35:19.000><c> I</c>

00:35:19.070 --> 00:35:19.080 align:start position:0%
there's stuff in the shopping cart, I
 

00:35:19.080 --> 00:35:22.910 align:start position:0%
there's stuff in the shopping cart, I
want<00:35:19.200><c> to</c><00:35:19.240><c> show</c><00:35:19.400><c> the</c><00:35:19.480><c> shopping</c><00:35:19.800><c> cart."</c>

00:35:22.910 --> 00:35:22.920 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:23.470 align:start position:0%
 
Yes.

00:35:23.470 --> 00:35:23.480 align:start position:0%
Yes.
 

00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:24.950 align:start position:0%
Yes.
Can<00:35:23.600><c> you</c>

00:35:24.950 --> 00:35:24.960 align:start position:0%
Can you
 

00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:25.750 align:start position:0%
Can you
talk

00:35:25.750 --> 00:35:25.760 align:start position:0%
talk
 

00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:27.350 align:start position:0%
talk
briefly<00:35:26.240><c> about</c>

00:35:27.350 --> 00:35:27.360 align:start position:0%
briefly about
 

00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:29.150 align:start position:0%
briefly about
how<00:35:27.520><c> that</c><00:35:27.800><c> process</c><00:35:28.200><c> works?</c><00:35:28.520><c> So,</c><00:35:28.760><c> when</c><00:35:28.920><c> you</c><00:35:29.000><c> get</c>

00:35:29.150 --> 00:35:29.160 align:start position:0%
how that process works? So, when you get
 

00:35:29.160 --> 00:35:31.670 align:start position:0%
how that process works? So, when you get
that<00:35:29.440><c> new</c><00:35:29.560><c> state,</c><00:35:30.400><c> how</c><00:35:30.520><c> does</c><00:35:30.720><c> that</c><00:35:31.040><c> then</c><00:35:31.360><c> get</c>

00:35:31.670 --> 00:35:31.680 align:start position:0%
that new state, how does that then get
 

00:35:31.680 --> 00:35:32.830 align:start position:0%
that new state, how does that then get
reflected

00:35:32.830 --> 00:35:32.840 align:start position:0%
reflected
 

00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:34.550 align:start position:0%
reflected
in<00:35:33.000><c> the</c><00:35:33.080><c> document?</c>

00:35:34.550 --> 00:35:34.560 align:start position:0%
in the document?
 

00:35:34.560 --> 00:35:36.310 align:start position:0%
in the document?
Question,<00:35:34.800><c> I</c><00:35:34.840><c> think</c><00:35:35.000><c> was</c><00:35:35.640><c> paraphrasing</c><00:35:36.200><c> how</c>

00:35:36.310 --> 00:35:36.320 align:start position:0%
Question, I think was paraphrasing how
 

00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:38.190 align:start position:0%
Question, I think was paraphrasing how
to<00:35:36.440><c> integrate</c><00:35:36.920><c> the</c><00:35:37.000><c> server's</c><00:35:37.600><c> state</c><00:35:37.960><c> with</c><00:35:38.080><c> the</c>

00:35:38.190 --> 00:35:38.200 align:start position:0%
to integrate the server's state with the
 

00:35:38.200 --> 00:35:40.710 align:start position:0%
to integrate the server's state with the
client<00:35:38.520><c> state.</c><00:35:39.120><c> How</c><00:35:39.200><c> do</c><00:35:39.280><c> How</c><00:35:39.360><c> do</c><00:35:39.400><c> we</c><00:35:39.520><c> do</c><00:35:39.640><c> that?</c>

00:35:40.710 --> 00:35:40.720 align:start position:0%
client state. How do How do we do that?
 

00:35:40.720 --> 00:35:42.470 align:start position:0%
client state. How do How do we do that?
Like,<00:35:40.880><c> how</c><00:35:40.960><c> does</c><00:35:41.120><c> it</c><00:35:41.200><c> get</c><00:35:41.360><c> into</c><00:35:41.600><c> the</c><00:35:42.200><c> How</c><00:35:42.280><c> does</c>

00:35:42.470 --> 00:35:42.480 align:start position:0%
Like, how does it get into the How does
 

00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:43.950 align:start position:0%
Like, how does it get into the How does
it<00:35:42.640><c> reflect</c><00:35:43.000><c> How</c><00:35:43.160><c> is</c><00:35:43.240><c> it</c><00:35:43.360><c> reflected</c><00:35:43.800><c> in</c><00:35:43.880><c> the</c>

00:35:43.950 --> 00:35:43.960 align:start position:0%
it reflect How is it reflected in the
 

00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:45.710 align:start position:0%
it reflect How is it reflected in the
document?<00:35:44.680><c> Is</c><00:35:44.800><c> what</c><00:35:44.920><c> you</c><00:35:45.000><c> want</c><00:35:45.120><c> to</c><00:35:45.160><c> know.</c>

00:35:45.710 --> 00:35:45.720 align:start position:0%
document? Is what you want to know.
 

00:35:45.720 --> 00:35:46.430 align:start position:0%
document? Is what you want to know.
Right.<00:35:46.120><c> So,</c>

00:35:46.430 --> 00:35:46.440 align:start position:0%
Right. So,
 

00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:47.430 align:start position:0%
Right. So,
Right.

00:35:47.430 --> 00:35:47.440 align:start position:0%
Right.
 

00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:49.630 align:start position:0%
Right.
in<00:35:47.760><c> the</c><00:35:47.880><c> demo</c><00:35:48.440><c> yesterday,</c><00:35:49.320><c> you</c><00:35:49.400><c> know,</c><00:35:49.480><c> that</c>

00:35:49.630 --> 00:35:49.640 align:start position:0%
in the demo yesterday, you know, that
 

00:35:49.640 --> 00:35:51.790 align:start position:0%
in the demo yesterday, you know, that
was<00:35:49.800><c> using</c><00:35:50.080><c> React</c>

00:35:51.790 --> 00:35:51.800 align:start position:0%
was using React
 

00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:52.830 align:start position:0%
was using React
and<00:35:51.920><c> they're</c><00:35:52.000><c> figuring</c><00:35:52.320><c> out</c><00:35:52.440><c> this</c>

00:35:52.830 --> 00:35:52.840 align:start position:0%
and they're figuring out this
 

00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:54.630 align:start position:0%
and they're figuring out this
integration<00:35:53.480><c> strategy.</c>

00:35:54.630 --> 00:35:54.640 align:start position:0%
integration strategy.
 

00:35:54.640 --> 00:35:58.310 align:start position:0%
integration strategy.
I<00:35:54.760><c> use</c><00:35:55.320><c> Do</c><00:35:55.400><c> you</c><00:35:55.480><c> re-render?</c>

00:35:58.310 --> 00:35:58.320 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:00.230 align:start position:0%
 
Right.<00:35:58.720><c> Yeah,</c><00:35:58.800><c> I</c><00:35:58.840><c> can</c><00:35:59.120><c> I</c><00:35:59.160><c> can</c><00:35:59.720><c> go</c><00:35:59.880><c> for</c>

00:36:00.230 --> 00:36:00.240 align:start position:0%
Right. Yeah, I can I can go for
 

00:36:00.240 --> 00:36:02.070 align:start position:0%
Right. Yeah, I can I can go for
Yeah.<00:36:00.600><c> Yeah,</c><00:36:00.760><c> so</c><00:36:01.320><c> in</c><00:36:01.440><c> general,</c><00:36:01.720><c> there</c><00:36:01.840><c> are</c><00:36:01.920><c> two</c>

00:36:02.070 --> 00:36:02.080 align:start position:0%
Yeah. Yeah, so in general, there are two
 

00:36:02.080 --> 00:36:04.830 align:start position:0%
Yeah. Yeah, so in general, there are two
approaches<00:36:03.120><c> to</c>

00:36:04.830 --> 00:36:04.840 align:start position:0%
approaches to
 

00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:06.190 align:start position:0%
approaches to
doing<00:36:05.040><c> this</c><00:36:05.160><c> thing</c><00:36:05.320><c> that</c><00:36:05.440><c> we</c><00:36:05.520><c> need</c><00:36:05.640><c> to</c><00:36:05.760><c> do.</c><00:36:06.000><c> And</c>

00:36:06.190 --> 00:36:06.200 align:start position:0%
doing this thing that we need to do. And
 

00:36:06.200 --> 00:36:08.190 align:start position:0%
doing this thing that we need to do. And
I<00:36:06.320><c> I</c><00:36:06.400><c> think</c><00:36:06.600><c> React</c><00:36:06.920><c> represents</c><00:36:07.360><c> one</c><00:36:07.640><c> approach</c>

00:36:08.190 --> 00:36:08.200 align:start position:0%
I I think React represents one approach
 

00:36:08.200 --> 00:36:09.270 align:start position:0%
I I think React represents one approach
and<00:36:08.520><c> everything</c><00:36:08.840><c> we're</c><00:36:08.920><c> showing</c><00:36:09.160><c> you</c>

00:36:09.270 --> 00:36:09.280 align:start position:0%
and everything we're showing you
 

00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:10.710 align:start position:0%
and everything we're showing you
represents<00:36:09.720><c> another.</c>

00:36:10.710 --> 00:36:10.720 align:start position:0%
represents another.
 

00:36:10.720 --> 00:36:13.630 align:start position:0%
represents another.
The<00:36:10.800><c> basic</c><00:36:11.600><c> bifurcation</c><00:36:12.320><c> is</c><00:36:12.440><c> between</c><00:36:13.400><c> two</c>

00:36:13.630 --> 00:36:13.640 align:start position:0%
The basic bifurcation is between two
 

00:36:13.640 --> 00:36:16.030 align:start position:0%
The basic bifurcation is between two
ways<00:36:14.000><c> to</c><00:36:14.120><c> repaint</c><00:36:14.640><c> the</c><00:36:14.720><c> UI.</c>

00:36:16.030 --> 00:36:16.040 align:start position:0%
ways to repaint the UI.
 

00:36:16.040 --> 00:36:18.230 align:start position:0%
ways to repaint the UI.
One<00:36:16.240><c> is</c><00:36:16.360><c> faster,</c><00:36:16.840><c> one</c><00:36:17.040><c> is</c><00:36:17.160><c> slower.</c>

00:36:18.230 --> 00:36:18.240 align:start position:0%
One is faster, one is slower.
 

00:36:18.240 --> 00:36:20.710 align:start position:0%
One is faster, one is slower.
One<00:36:19.000><c> may</c><00:36:19.200><c> may</c><00:36:19.400><c> or</c><00:36:19.480><c> may</c><00:36:19.600><c> not</c><00:36:19.760><c> be</c><00:36:19.880><c> inconsistent,</c>

00:36:20.710 --> 00:36:20.720 align:start position:0%
One may may or may not be inconsistent,
 

00:36:20.720 --> 00:36:22.110 align:start position:0%
One may may or may not be inconsistent,
one<00:36:20.920><c> is</c><00:36:21.040><c> guaranteed</c><00:36:21.400><c> to</c><00:36:21.440><c> be</c><00:36:21.560><c> consistent.</c>

00:36:22.110 --> 00:36:22.120 align:start position:0%
one is guaranteed to be consistent.
 

00:36:22.120 --> 00:36:23.670 align:start position:0%
one is guaranteed to be consistent.
Those<00:36:22.320><c> are</c><00:36:22.400><c> the</c><00:36:22.480><c> trade-offs.</c>

00:36:23.670 --> 00:36:23.680 align:start position:0%
Those are the trade-offs.
 

00:36:23.680 --> 00:36:26.190 align:start position:0%
Those are the trade-offs.
The<00:36:23.720><c> React</c><00:36:24.120><c> approach</c><00:36:24.640><c> is</c><00:36:25.640><c> the</c><00:36:25.760><c> same</c><00:36:25.960><c> one</c><00:36:26.080><c> that</c>

00:36:26.190 --> 00:36:26.200 align:start position:0%
The React approach is the same one that
 

00:36:26.200 --> 00:36:27.910 align:start position:0%
The React approach is the same one that
Angular<00:36:26.560><c> uses,</c><00:36:27.000><c> but</c><00:36:27.080><c> slightly</c>

00:36:27.910 --> 00:36:27.920 align:start position:0%
Angular uses, but slightly
 

00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:29.990 align:start position:0%
Angular uses, but slightly
refined.<00:36:28.360><c> It's</c><00:36:28.480><c> called</c><00:36:28.680><c> dirty</c><00:36:28.960><c> checking.</c><00:36:29.960><c> And</c>

00:36:29.990 --> 00:36:30.000 align:start position:0%
refined. It's called dirty checking. And
 

00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:31.470 align:start position:0%
refined. It's called dirty checking. And
historically,

00:36:31.470 --> 00:36:31.480 align:start position:0%
historically,
 

00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:33.190 align:start position:0%
historically,
people<00:36:31.640><c> who</c><00:36:31.680><c> have</c><00:36:31.760><c> been</c><00:36:31.880><c> writing</c><00:36:32.120><c> UIs</c><00:36:33.000><c> using</c>

00:36:33.190 --> 00:36:33.200 align:start position:0%
people who have been writing UIs using
 

00:36:33.200 --> 00:36:34.190 align:start position:0%
people who have been writing UIs using
this<00:36:33.320><c> approach,</c><00:36:33.600><c> I</c><00:36:33.640><c> think</c><00:36:33.760><c> there's</c><00:36:33.840><c> a</c><00:36:33.920><c> common</c>

00:36:34.190 --> 00:36:34.200 align:start position:0%
this approach, I think there's a common
 

00:36:34.200 --> 00:36:36.270 align:start position:0%
this approach, I think there's a common
list<00:36:34.360><c> system</c><00:36:34.640><c> called</c><00:36:34.960><c> Garnet</c><00:36:35.600><c> or</c><00:36:35.800><c> there's</c>

00:36:36.270 --> 00:36:36.280 align:start position:0%
list system called Garnet or there's
 

00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:37.870 align:start position:0%
list system called Garnet or there's
whatever,<00:36:36.520><c> there's</c><00:36:36.640><c> papers</c><00:36:37.000><c> there's</c><00:36:37.160><c> papers.</c>

00:36:37.870 --> 00:36:37.880 align:start position:0%
whatever, there's papers there's papers.
 

00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:40.710 align:start position:0%
whatever, there's papers there's papers.
Check<00:36:38.000><c> them</c><00:36:38.120><c> out.</c><00:36:39.040><c> Um</c>

00:36:40.710 --> 00:36:40.720 align:start position:0%
Check them out. Um
 

00:36:40.720 --> 00:36:41.630 align:start position:0%
Check them out. Um
Uh

00:36:41.630 --> 00:36:41.640 align:start position:0%
Uh
 

00:36:41.640 --> 00:36:43.830 align:start position:0%
Uh
the<00:36:42.120><c> thing</c><00:36:42.360><c> you</c><00:36:42.480><c> get</c><00:36:42.600><c> is</c><00:36:42.720><c> speed</c><00:36:43.440><c> because</c><00:36:43.720><c> you</c>

00:36:43.830 --> 00:36:43.840 align:start position:0%
the thing you get is speed because you
 

00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:45.510 align:start position:0%
the thing you get is speed because you
don't<00:36:44.160><c> need</c><00:36:44.400><c> to</c><00:36:44.520><c> check</c><00:36:44.840><c> everything</c><00:36:45.360><c> that</c>

00:36:45.510 --> 00:36:45.520 align:start position:0%
don't need to check everything that
 

00:36:45.520 --> 00:36:46.910 align:start position:0%
don't need to check everything that
you're<00:36:45.640><c> trying</c><00:36:45.840><c> to</c><00:36:45.880><c> update</c><00:36:46.200><c> for</c><00:36:46.280><c> equality.</c>

00:36:46.910 --> 00:36:46.920 align:start position:0%
you're trying to update for equality.
 

00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:48.870 align:start position:0%
you're trying to update for equality.
Like<00:36:47.000><c> that's</c><00:36:47.200><c> the</c><00:36:47.320><c> essence</c><00:36:47.600><c> of</c><00:36:47.680><c> data</c><00:36:47.920><c> flow</c><00:36:48.280><c> is</c>

00:36:48.870 --> 00:36:48.880 align:start position:0%
Like that's the essence of data flow is
 

00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:49.990 align:start position:0%
Like that's the essence of data flow is
we<00:36:49.000><c> spin</c><00:36:49.240><c> through</c><00:36:49.360><c> these</c><00:36:49.520><c> values</c><00:36:49.840><c> that</c><00:36:49.960><c> are</c>

00:36:49.990 --> 00:36:50.000 align:start position:0%
we spin through these values that are
 

00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:51.430 align:start position:0%
we spin through these values that are
coming<00:36:50.280><c> in</c><00:36:50.560><c> and</c><00:36:50.720><c> if</c><00:36:50.840><c> they're</c><00:36:50.960><c> different</c><00:36:51.320><c> than</c>

00:36:51.430 --> 00:36:51.440 align:start position:0%
coming in and if they're different than
 

00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:54.430 align:start position:0%
coming in and if they're different than
ones<00:36:51.600><c> we</c><00:36:51.720><c> knew</c><00:36:51.920><c> about,</c><00:36:52.920><c> we</c><00:36:52.960><c> need</c><00:36:53.080><c> to</c><00:36:53.160><c> do</c><00:36:53.320><c> stuff.</c>

00:36:54.430 --> 00:36:54.440 align:start position:0%
ones we knew about, we need to do stuff.
 

00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:55.870 align:start position:0%
ones we knew about, we need to do stuff.
With<00:36:54.600><c> dirty</c><00:36:54.880><c> checking,</c><00:36:55.240><c> you</c><00:36:55.320><c> just</c><00:36:55.520><c> say,</c><00:36:55.680><c> "Hey,</c>

00:36:55.870 --> 00:36:55.880 align:start position:0%
With dirty checking, you just say, "Hey,
 

00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:58.390 align:start position:0%
With dirty checking, you just say, "Hey,
if<00:36:56.120><c> anything</c><00:36:56.640><c> in</c><00:36:56.760><c> the</c><00:36:56.840><c> tree</c><00:36:57.160><c> changed,</c><00:36:58.000><c> we</c><00:36:58.160><c> know</c>

00:36:58.390 --> 00:36:58.400 align:start position:0%
if anything in the tree changed, we know
 

00:36:58.400 --> 00:36:59.470 align:start position:0%
if anything in the tree changed, we know
that<00:36:58.600><c> stuff</c><00:36:58.840><c> below</c><00:36:59.080><c> we're</c><00:36:59.160><c> just</c><00:36:59.280><c> going</c><00:36:59.400><c> to</c>

00:36:59.470 --> 00:36:59.480 align:start position:0%
that stuff below we're just going to
 

00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:01.030 align:start position:0%
that stuff below we're just going to
blow<00:36:59.680><c> away</c><00:36:59.880><c> anything</c><00:37:00.200><c> that</c><00:37:00.320><c> existed</c><00:37:00.680><c> below</c><00:37:00.920><c> it</c>

00:37:01.030 --> 00:37:01.040 align:start position:0%
blow away anything that existed below it
 

00:37:01.040 --> 00:37:03.070 align:start position:0%
blow away anything that existed below it
without<00:37:01.400><c> checking</c><00:37:01.680><c> it</c><00:37:01.760><c> for</c><00:37:01.880><c> equality."</c>

00:37:03.070 --> 00:37:03.080 align:start position:0%
without checking it for equality."
 

00:37:03.080 --> 00:37:04.870 align:start position:0%
without checking it for equality."
So<00:37:03.120><c> you</c><00:37:03.160><c> get</c><00:37:03.360><c> speed</c><00:37:03.720><c> there.</c>

00:37:04.870 --> 00:37:04.880 align:start position:0%
So you get speed there.
 

00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:06.230 align:start position:0%
So you get speed there.
On<00:37:04.920><c> the</c><00:37:05.000><c> other</c><00:37:05.160><c> side,</c><00:37:05.440><c> which</c><00:37:05.560><c> is</c><00:37:05.640><c> what</c><00:37:05.800><c> Javelin</c>

00:37:06.230 --> 00:37:06.240 align:start position:0%
On the other side, which is what Javelin
 

00:37:06.240 --> 00:37:08.670 align:start position:0%
On the other side, which is what Javelin
does<00:37:06.520><c> and</c><00:37:06.640><c> which</c><00:37:06.800><c> is</c><00:37:06.880><c> what</c><00:37:07.040><c> spreadsheets</c><00:37:07.640><c> do,</c>

00:37:08.670 --> 00:37:08.680 align:start position:0%
does and which is what spreadsheets do,
 

00:37:08.680 --> 00:37:10.590 align:start position:0%
does and which is what spreadsheets do,
we<00:37:08.800><c> do</c><00:37:09.040><c> equality</c><00:37:09.440><c> checking</c><00:37:09.760><c> for</c><00:37:09.880><c> every</c><00:37:10.160><c> value</c>

00:37:10.590 --> 00:37:10.600 align:start position:0%
we do equality checking for every value
 

00:37:10.600 --> 00:37:12.350 align:start position:0%
we do equality checking for every value
that<00:37:10.720><c> gets</c><00:37:10.920><c> pushed</c><00:37:11.200><c> in.</c><00:37:11.960><c> And</c><00:37:12.040><c> we</c><00:37:12.120><c> don't</c>

00:37:12.350 --> 00:37:12.360 align:start position:0%
that gets pushed in. And we don't
 

00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:14.310 align:start position:0%
that gets pushed in. And we don't
calculate<00:37:12.880><c> diffs.</c><00:37:13.240><c> There's</c><00:37:13.480><c> really</c><00:37:13.680><c> no</c><00:37:14.240><c> the</c>

00:37:14.310 --> 00:37:14.320 align:start position:0%
calculate diffs. There's really no the
 

00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:15.470 align:start position:0%
calculate diffs. There's really no the
same<00:37:14.440><c> way</c><00:37:14.520><c> there's</c><00:37:14.680><c> not</c><00:37:14.800><c> really</c><00:37:14.960><c> a</c><00:37:15.000><c> concept</c><00:37:15.360><c> of</c>

00:37:15.470 --> 00:37:15.480 align:start position:0%
same way there's not really a concept of
 

00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:16.870 align:start position:0%
same way there's not really a concept of
a<00:37:15.520><c> diff</c><00:37:15.800><c> in</c><00:37:15.880><c> a</c><00:37:15.920><c> spreadsheet,</c><00:37:16.400><c> there</c><00:37:16.520><c> isn't</c><00:37:16.800><c> in</c>

00:37:16.870 --> 00:37:16.880 align:start position:0%
a diff in a spreadsheet, there isn't in
 

00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:18.310 align:start position:0%
a diff in a spreadsheet, there isn't in
Javelin.

00:37:18.310 --> 00:37:18.320 align:start position:0%
Javelin.
 

00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:20.190 align:start position:0%
Javelin.
What<00:37:18.480><c> we've</c><00:37:18.680><c> found</c><00:37:19.240><c> in</c><00:37:19.560><c> in</c><00:37:19.720><c> our</c><00:37:19.920><c> efforts</c>

00:37:20.190 --> 00:37:20.200 align:start position:0%
What we've found in in our efforts
 

00:37:20.200 --> 00:37:21.950 align:start position:0%
What we've found in in our efforts
around<00:37:20.520><c> this</c><00:37:20.920><c> and</c><00:37:21.080><c> the</c><00:37:21.160><c> reason</c><00:37:21.400><c> we</c><00:37:21.520><c> went</c><00:37:21.760><c> with</c>

00:37:21.950 --> 00:37:21.960 align:start position:0%
around this and the reason we went with
 

00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:23.350 align:start position:0%
around this and the reason we went with
spreadsheet<00:37:22.400><c> style</c><00:37:22.640><c> data</c><00:37:22.880><c> flow</c><00:37:23.080><c> instead</c><00:37:23.280><c> of</c>

00:37:23.350 --> 00:37:23.360 align:start position:0%
spreadsheet style data flow instead of
 

00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:25.910 align:start position:0%
spreadsheet style data flow instead of
dirty<00:37:23.600><c> checking</c><00:37:24.480><c> is</c><00:37:24.760><c> that</c>

00:37:25.910 --> 00:37:25.920 align:start position:0%
dirty checking is that
 

00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:27.750 align:start position:0%
dirty checking is that
you<00:37:26.040><c> need</c><00:37:26.160><c> to</c><00:37:26.240><c> be</c><00:37:26.280><c> able</c><00:37:26.440><c> to</c><00:37:26.560><c> write</c><00:37:26.920><c> components</c>

00:37:27.750 --> 00:37:27.760 align:start position:0%
you need to be able to write components
 

00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:29.270 align:start position:0%
you need to be able to write components
that<00:37:27.920><c> compose</c><00:37:28.360><c> with</c><00:37:28.480><c> each</c><00:37:28.680><c> other</c><00:37:29.000><c> under</c><00:37:29.240><c> a</c>

00:37:29.270 --> 00:37:29.280 align:start position:0%
that compose with each other under a
 

00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:30.470 align:start position:0%
that compose with each other under a
semantic.

00:37:30.470 --> 00:37:30.480 align:start position:0%
semantic.
 

00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:32.830 align:start position:0%
semantic.
Like<00:37:31.440><c> the</c><00:37:31.640><c> reason</c><00:37:32.000><c> we</c><00:37:32.120><c> invented</c><00:37:32.520><c> this</c><00:37:32.640><c> whole</c>

00:37:32.830 --> 00:37:32.840 align:start position:0%
Like the reason we invented this whole
 

00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:35.150 align:start position:0%
Like the reason we invented this whole
thing<00:37:33.200><c> is</c><00:37:33.360><c> because</c><00:37:34.120><c> we</c><00:37:34.200><c> had</c><00:37:34.320><c> a</c><00:37:34.360><c> product</c><00:37:35.000><c> with</c><00:37:35.120><c> a</c>

00:37:35.150 --> 00:37:35.160 align:start position:0%
thing is because we had a product with a
 

00:37:35.160 --> 00:37:37.670 align:start position:0%
thing is because we had a product with a
front<00:37:35.480><c> end.</c><00:37:36.160><c> And</c><00:37:36.240><c> we</c><00:37:36.360><c> had</c><00:37:36.600><c> the</c><00:37:37.040><c> it</c><00:37:37.160><c> was</c><00:37:37.320><c> for</c><00:37:37.520><c> a</c>

00:37:37.670 --> 00:37:37.680 align:start position:0%
front end. And we had the it was for a
 

00:37:37.680 --> 00:37:39.670 align:start position:0%
front end. And we had the it was for a
meal<00:37:37.960><c> delivery</c><00:37:38.360><c> application.</c>

00:37:39.670 --> 00:37:39.680 align:start position:0%
meal delivery application.
 

00:37:39.680 --> 00:37:42.470 align:start position:0%
meal delivery application.
We<00:37:39.760><c> needed</c><00:37:40.000><c> to</c><00:37:40.120><c> rebrand</c><00:37:41.080><c> the</c><00:37:41.560><c> the</c>

00:37:42.470 --> 00:37:42.480 align:start position:0%
We needed to rebrand the the
 

00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:43.910 align:start position:0%
We needed to rebrand the the
Uh<00:37:42.800><c> well</c><00:37:42.880><c> actually,</c><00:37:43.120><c> this</c><00:37:43.280><c> is</c><00:37:43.480><c> stuff</c><00:37:43.720><c> Misha</c>

00:37:43.910 --> 00:37:43.920 align:start position:0%
Uh well actually, this is stuff Misha
 

00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:45.390 align:start position:0%
Uh well actually, this is stuff Misha
worked<00:37:44.120><c> on</c><00:37:44.200><c> before</c><00:37:44.520><c> I</c><00:37:44.760><c> joined.</c><00:37:44.960><c> I</c><00:37:45.200><c> I</c><00:37:45.280><c> just</c>

00:37:45.390 --> 00:37:45.400 align:start position:0%
worked on before I joined. I I just
 

00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:46.630 align:start position:0%
worked on before I joined. I I just
showed<00:37:45.560><c> up</c><00:37:45.680><c> at</c><00:37:45.720><c> the</c><00:37:45.800><c> very</c><00:37:46.000><c> end</c><00:37:46.160><c> and</c><00:37:46.240><c> like</c><00:37:46.480><c> took</c>

00:37:46.630 --> 00:37:46.640 align:start position:0%
showed up at the very end and like took
 

00:37:46.640 --> 00:37:48.430 align:start position:0%
showed up at the very end and like took
all<00:37:46.720><c> the</c><00:37:46.800><c> credit.</c><00:37:47.600><c> But</c><00:37:48.120><c> it</c><00:37:48.240><c> was</c><00:37:48.360><c> an</c>

00:37:48.430 --> 00:37:48.440 align:start position:0%
all the credit. But it was an
 

00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:50.630 align:start position:0%
all the credit. But it was an
application<00:37:48.920><c> it</c><00:37:49.000><c> was</c><00:37:49.120><c> like</c><00:37:49.360><c> a</c><00:37:50.040><c> 10</c><00:37:50.280><c> billion</c>

00:37:50.630 --> 00:37:50.640 align:start position:0%
application it was like a 10 billion
 

00:37:50.640 --> 00:37:55.150 align:start position:0%
application it was like a 10 billion
line<00:37:50.880><c> PHP</c><00:37:51.360><c> jQuery</c><00:37:52.080><c> shenanigan.</c><00:37:53.240><c> And</c><00:37:54.360><c> um</c>

00:37:55.150 --> 00:37:55.160 align:start position:0%
line PHP jQuery shenanigan. And um
 

00:37:55.160 --> 00:37:56.750 align:start position:0%
line PHP jQuery shenanigan. And um
it<00:37:55.440><c> it</c><00:37:55.680><c> it</c><00:37:55.800><c> had</c><00:37:56.000><c> all</c><00:37:56.120><c> the</c><00:37:56.200><c> logic</c><00:37:56.520><c> in</c><00:37:56.640><c> it</c>

00:37:56.750 --> 00:37:56.760 align:start position:0%
it it it had all the logic in it
 

00:37:56.760 --> 00:37:58.470 align:start position:0%
it it it had all the logic in it
encoded,<00:37:57.520><c> obviously,</c><00:37:58.000><c> but</c><00:37:58.280><c> it</c><00:37:58.360><c> was</c>

00:37:58.470 --> 00:37:58.480 align:start position:0%
encoded, obviously, but it was
 

00:37:58.480 --> 00:37:59.750 align:start position:0%
encoded, obviously, but it was
impossible<00:37:58.960><c> to</c><00:37:59.040><c> maintain.</c><00:37:59.480><c> And</c><00:37:59.560><c> then</c><00:37:59.680><c> the</c>

00:37:59.750 --> 00:37:59.760 align:start position:0%
impossible to maintain. And then the
 

00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:01.590 align:start position:0%
impossible to maintain. And then the
requirement<00:38:00.160><c> came</c><00:38:00.320><c> down,</c><00:38:00.560><c> "Hey,</c><00:38:01.280><c> take</c><00:38:01.440><c> this</c>

00:38:01.590 --> 00:38:01.600 align:start position:0%
requirement came down, "Hey, take this
 

00:38:01.600 --> 00:38:03.230 align:start position:0%
requirement came down, "Hey, take this
business<00:38:01.960><c> logic,</c><00:38:02.400><c> but</c><00:38:02.560><c> let's</c><00:38:02.760><c> white</c><00:38:03.040><c> white</c>

00:38:03.230 --> 00:38:03.240 align:start position:0%
business logic, but let's white white
 

00:38:03.240 --> 00:38:04.990 align:start position:0%
business logic, but let's white white
label<00:38:03.520><c> it.</c><00:38:04.200><c> Like</c><00:38:04.320><c> instead</c><00:38:04.560><c> of</c><00:38:04.640><c> this</c><00:38:04.760><c> being</c>

00:38:04.990 --> 00:38:05.000 align:start position:0%
label it. Like instead of this being
 

00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:06.550 align:start position:0%
label it. Like instead of this being
meals<00:38:05.280><c> for,</c><00:38:05.560><c> you</c><00:38:05.640><c> know,</c><00:38:05.760><c> this</c><00:38:05.960><c> demographic,</c>

00:38:06.550 --> 00:38:06.560 align:start position:0%
meals for, you know, this demographic,
 

00:38:06.560 --> 00:38:07.990 align:start position:0%
meals for, you know, this demographic,
we<00:38:06.680><c> want</c><00:38:06.800><c> to</c><00:38:06.840><c> ship</c><00:38:07.000><c> meals</c><00:38:07.200><c> to</c><00:38:07.280><c> these</c><00:38:07.480><c> people.</c>

00:38:07.990 --> 00:38:08.000 align:start position:0%
we want to ship meals to these people.
 

00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:09.790 align:start position:0%
we want to ship meals to these people.
Is<00:38:08.120><c> that</c><00:38:08.320><c> possible?"</c><00:38:09.320><c> This</c><00:38:09.400><c> came</c><00:38:09.560><c> down</c><00:38:09.720><c> to</c>

00:38:09.790 --> 00:38:09.800 align:start position:0%
Is that possible?" This came down to
 

00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:10.830 align:start position:0%
Is that possible?" This came down to
Misha

00:38:10.830 --> 00:38:10.840 align:start position:0%
Misha
 

00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:11.990 align:start position:0%
Misha
and

00:38:11.990 --> 00:38:12.000 align:start position:0%
and
 

00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:13.110 align:start position:0%
and
I<00:38:12.080><c> guess</c><00:38:12.240><c> your</c><00:38:12.320><c> short</c><00:38:12.520><c> answer</c><00:38:12.720><c> was</c><00:38:12.840><c> no,</c><00:38:13.000><c> it's</c>

00:38:13.110 --> 00:38:13.120 align:start position:0%
I guess your short answer was no, it's
 

00:38:13.120 --> 00:38:15.870 align:start position:0%
I guess your short answer was no, it's
not<00:38:13.280><c> possible</c><00:38:14.320><c> to</c><00:38:14.440><c> pull</c><00:38:14.640><c> anything</c><00:38:15.080><c> reusable</c>

00:38:15.870 --> 00:38:15.880 align:start position:0%
not possible to pull anything reusable
 

00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:18.430 align:start position:0%
not possible to pull anything reusable
out<00:38:16.000><c> of</c><00:38:16.040><c> this</c><00:38:16.200><c> app</c><00:38:17.040><c> because</c><00:38:17.520><c> the</c><00:38:17.840><c> logic</c><00:38:18.320><c> and</c>

00:38:18.430 --> 00:38:18.440 align:start position:0%
out of this app because the logic and
 

00:38:18.440 --> 00:38:20.590 align:start position:0%
out of this app because the logic and
the<00:38:18.480><c> view</c><00:38:18.680><c> are</c><00:38:18.760><c> just</c><00:38:18.920><c> so</c><00:38:19.080><c> deeply</c><00:38:19.720><c> intertwined.</c>

00:38:20.590 --> 00:38:20.600 align:start position:0%
the view are just so deeply intertwined.
 

00:38:20.600 --> 00:38:22.030 align:start position:0%
the view are just so deeply intertwined.
Yeah,<00:38:20.680><c> and</c><00:38:20.760><c> I</c><00:38:20.800><c> think</c><00:38:21.000><c> to</c><00:38:21.080><c> point</c><00:38:21.360><c> out</c><00:38:21.560><c> also</c><00:38:21.880><c> is</c>

00:38:22.030 --> 00:38:22.040 align:start position:0%
Yeah, and I think to point out also is
 

00:38:22.040 --> 00:38:25.630 align:start position:0%
Yeah, and I think to point out also is
that<00:38:22.840><c> so</c><00:38:23.840><c> about</c><00:38:24.280><c> the</c><00:38:24.360><c> dirty</c><00:38:24.600><c> checking</c>

00:38:25.630 --> 00:38:25.640 align:start position:0%
that so about the dirty checking
 

00:38:25.640 --> 00:38:27.230 align:start position:0%
that so about the dirty checking
the<00:38:25.680><c> way</c><00:38:25.840><c> Javelin</c><00:38:26.280><c> works</c><00:38:26.560><c> is</c><00:38:26.760><c> you</c><00:38:26.840><c> can</c><00:38:26.960><c> imagine</c>

00:38:27.230 --> 00:38:27.240 align:start position:0%
the way Javelin works is you can imagine
 

00:38:27.240 --> 00:38:29.670 align:start position:0%
the way Javelin works is you can imagine
a<00:38:27.280><c> graph</c><00:38:27.600><c> of</c><00:38:27.720><c> cells,</c><00:38:28.520><c> you</c><00:38:28.640><c> know,</c><00:38:28.800><c> that</c><00:38:28.960><c> are</c>

00:38:29.670 --> 00:38:29.680 align:start position:0%
a graph of cells, you know, that are
 

00:38:29.680 --> 00:38:30.990 align:start position:0%
a graph of cells, you know, that are
kind<00:38:29.800><c> of</c><00:38:29.880><c> organized</c><00:38:30.240><c> by</c><00:38:30.360><c> the</c><00:38:30.480><c> relationships</c>

00:38:30.990 --> 00:38:31.000 align:start position:0%
kind of organized by the relationships
 

00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:32.110 align:start position:0%
kind of organized by the relationships
to<00:38:31.040><c> each</c><00:38:31.200><c> other.</c><00:38:31.360><c> In</c><00:38:31.400><c> other</c><00:38:31.600><c> words,</c><00:38:31.720><c> a</c><00:38:31.760><c> formula</c>

00:38:32.110 --> 00:38:32.120 align:start position:0%
to each other. In other words, a formula
 

00:38:32.120 --> 00:38:33.790 align:start position:0%
to each other. In other words, a formula
cell<00:38:32.280><c> might</c><00:38:32.440><c> depend</c><00:38:33.040><c> it</c><00:38:33.160><c> might</c><00:38:33.280><c> refer</c><00:38:33.640><c> to</c>

00:38:33.790 --> 00:38:33.800 align:start position:0%
cell might depend it might refer to
 

00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:35.950 align:start position:0%
cell might depend it might refer to
other<00:38:34.000><c> cells.</c><00:38:34.760><c> So,</c><00:38:34.840><c> that</c><00:38:35.000><c> forms</c><00:38:35.240><c> a</c><00:38:35.280><c> graph,</c><00:38:35.840><c> but</c>

00:38:35.950 --> 00:38:35.960 align:start position:0%
other cells. So, that forms a graph, but
 

00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:39.430 align:start position:0%
other cells. So, that forms a graph, but
it's<00:38:36.080><c> this</c><00:38:36.640><c> this</c><00:38:36.800><c> directed</c><00:38:37.160><c> graph</c><00:38:37.560><c> and</c>

00:38:39.430 --> 00:38:39.440 align:start position:0%
it's this this directed graph and
 

00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:42.430 align:start position:0%
it's this this directed graph and
no<00:38:39.920><c> no</c><00:38:40.200><c> cell</c><00:38:40.640><c> will</c><00:38:41.160><c> will</c><00:38:41.440><c> trigger</c><00:38:41.760><c> any</c><00:38:41.920><c> updates</c>

00:38:42.430 --> 00:38:42.440 align:start position:0%
no no cell will will trigger any updates
 

00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:44.470 align:start position:0%
no no cell will will trigger any updates
if<00:38:42.560><c> its</c><00:38:42.680><c> value</c><00:38:42.920><c> doesn't</c><00:38:43.160><c> change.</c><00:38:43.960><c> So,</c><00:38:44.120><c> there's</c>

00:38:44.470 --> 00:38:44.480 align:start position:0%
if its value doesn't change. So, there's
 

00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:45.950 align:start position:0%
if its value doesn't change. So, there's
like<00:38:44.680><c> very</c><00:38:44.880><c> aggressive</c><00:38:45.320><c> pruning</c><00:38:45.640><c> that</c><00:38:45.760><c> goes</c>

00:38:45.950 --> 00:38:45.960 align:start position:0%
like very aggressive pruning that goes
 

00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:48.710 align:start position:0%
like very aggressive pruning that goes
on<00:38:46.120><c> just</c><00:38:46.280><c> naturally.</c><00:38:47.160><c> In</c><00:38:47.280><c> other</c><00:38:47.440><c> words,</c><00:38:47.920><c> if</c><00:38:48.400><c> if</c>

00:38:48.710 --> 00:38:48.720 align:start position:0%
on just naturally. In other words, if if
 

00:38:48.720 --> 00:38:50.630 align:start position:0%
on just naturally. In other words, if if
an<00:38:48.920><c> input</c><00:38:49.200><c> cell</c><00:38:49.360><c> changes</c><00:38:49.920><c> it</c><00:38:49.960><c> might</c><00:38:50.120><c> cause</c><00:38:50.440><c> one</c>

00:38:50.630 --> 00:38:50.640 align:start position:0%
an input cell changes it might cause one
 

00:38:50.640 --> 00:38:53.430 align:start position:0%
an input cell changes it might cause one
formula<00:38:51.040><c> cell</c><00:38:51.160><c> to</c><00:38:51.280><c> change,</c><00:38:52.120><c> but</c><00:38:52.640><c> if</c><00:38:53.080><c> that's</c>

00:38:53.430 --> 00:38:53.440 align:start position:0%
formula cell to change, but if that's
 

00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:55.190 align:start position:0%
formula cell to change, but if that's
where<00:38:53.600><c> it</c><00:38:53.720><c> ends</c><00:38:53.960><c> then</c><00:38:54.080><c> that's</c><00:38:54.320><c> where</c><00:38:54.440><c> it</c><00:38:54.560><c> ends.</c>

00:38:55.190 --> 00:38:55.200 align:start position:0%
where it ends then that's where it ends.
 

00:38:55.200 --> 00:38:56.670 align:start position:0%
where it ends then that's where it ends.
So,<00:38:55.360><c> if</c><00:38:55.480><c> you</c><00:38:55.600><c> have</c><00:38:55.840><c> a</c><00:38:55.880><c> lot</c><00:38:56.040><c> of</c><00:38:56.120><c> DOM</c><00:38:56.360><c> elements</c>

00:38:56.670 --> 00:38:56.680 align:start position:0%
So, if you have a lot of DOM elements
 

00:38:56.680 --> 00:38:57.790 align:start position:0%
So, if you have a lot of DOM elements
that<00:38:56.800><c> are</c><00:38:56.880><c> looking</c><00:38:57.200><c> at</c><00:38:57.320><c> all</c><00:38:57.480><c> these</c><00:38:57.640><c> other</c>

00:38:57.790 --> 00:38:57.800 align:start position:0%
that are looking at all these other
 

00:38:57.800 --> 00:38:59.230 align:start position:0%
that are looking at all these other
formula<00:38:58.160><c> cells</c>

00:38:59.230 --> 00:38:59.240 align:start position:0%
formula cells
 

00:38:59.240 --> 00:39:01.030 align:start position:0%
formula cells
nothing<00:38:59.560><c> happens</c><00:39:00.000><c> because</c><00:39:00.480><c> no</c><00:39:00.640><c> values</c>

00:39:01.030 --> 00:39:01.040 align:start position:0%
nothing happens because no values
 

00:39:01.040 --> 00:39:02.750 align:start position:0%
nothing happens because no values
changed.<00:39:01.760><c> However,</c><00:39:02.040><c> if</c><00:39:02.200><c> the</c><00:39:02.280><c> values</c><00:39:02.600><c> did</c>

00:39:02.750 --> 00:39:02.760 align:start position:0%
changed. However, if the values did
 

00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:04.590 align:start position:0%
changed. However, if the values did
change,<00:39:03.440><c> then</c><00:39:03.560><c> you</c><00:39:03.640><c> definitely</c><00:39:04.080><c> need</c><00:39:04.240><c> to</c>

00:39:04.590 --> 00:39:04.600 align:start position:0%
change, then you definitely need to
 

00:39:04.600 --> 00:39:06.670 align:start position:0%
change, then you definitely need to
update<00:39:04.960><c> those</c><00:39:05.120><c> DOM</c><00:39:05.360><c> elements</c><00:39:05.720><c> anyway,</c><00:39:06.560><c> no</c>

00:39:06.670 --> 00:39:06.680 align:start position:0%
update those DOM elements anyway, no
 

00:39:06.680 --> 00:39:08.870 align:start position:0%
update those DOM elements anyway, no
matter<00:39:06.920><c> what</c><00:39:07.520><c> because</c><00:39:07.840><c> they're</c><00:39:08.040><c> no</c><00:39:08.360><c> longer,</c>

00:39:08.870 --> 00:39:08.880 align:start position:0%
matter what because they're no longer,
 

00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:10.470 align:start position:0%
matter what because they're no longer,
you<00:39:09.000><c> know,</c>

00:39:10.470 --> 00:39:10.480 align:start position:0%
you know,
 

00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:13.070 align:start position:0%
you know,
consistent.<00:39:11.280><c> So,</c>

00:39:13.070 --> 00:39:13.080 align:start position:0%
consistent. So,
 

00:39:13.080 --> 00:39:14.470 align:start position:0%
consistent. So,
I<00:39:13.120><c> think</c>

00:39:14.470 --> 00:39:14.480 align:start position:0%
I think
 

00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:16.430 align:start position:0%
I think
another<00:39:14.880><c> thing</c><00:39:15.040><c> to</c><00:39:15.160><c> look</c><00:39:15.400><c> at</c>

00:39:16.430 --> 00:39:16.440 align:start position:0%
another thing to look at
 

00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:18.950 align:start position:0%
another thing to look at
comparing<00:39:17.160><c> these</c><00:39:17.320><c> two</c><00:39:17.480><c> approaches</c><00:39:18.400><c> is</c><00:39:18.720><c> like</c><00:39:18.920><c> I</c>

00:39:18.950 --> 00:39:18.960 align:start position:0%
comparing these two approaches is like I
 

00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:21.430 align:start position:0%
comparing these two approaches is like I
look<00:39:19.160><c> at</c><00:39:19.240><c> the</c><00:39:19.320><c> DOM</c><00:39:19.680><c> as</c><00:39:20.000><c> this</c><00:39:20.240><c> input</c><00:39:20.520><c> output</c>

00:39:21.430 --> 00:39:21.440 align:start position:0%
look at the DOM as this input output
 

00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:22.670 align:start position:0%
look at the DOM as this input output
device.

00:39:22.670 --> 00:39:22.680 align:start position:0%
device.
 

00:39:22.680 --> 00:39:25.350 align:start position:0%
device.
And<00:39:23.040><c> React</c><00:39:23.440><c> seems</c><00:39:23.680><c> more</c><00:39:23.880><c> to</c><00:39:24.000><c> me</c><00:39:24.280><c> like</c><00:39:24.800><c> a</c><00:39:24.880><c> buffer</c>

00:39:25.350 --> 00:39:25.360 align:start position:0%
And React seems more to me like a buffer
 

00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:27.270 align:start position:0%
And React seems more to me like a buffer
kind<00:39:25.560><c> of</c><00:39:25.640><c> like</c><00:39:25.840><c> Emacs.</c><00:39:26.680><c> You</c><00:39:26.800><c> can</c><00:39:26.920><c> type</c><00:39:27.080><c> around</c>

00:39:27.270 --> 00:39:27.280 align:start position:0%
kind of like Emacs. You can type around
 

00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:29.910 align:start position:0%
kind of like Emacs. You can type around
in<00:39:27.360><c> Emacs</c><00:39:27.960><c> and</c><00:39:28.680><c> Emacs</c><00:39:29.040><c> has,</c><00:39:29.320><c> I'm</c><00:39:29.480><c> sure,</c><00:39:29.800><c> all</c>

00:39:29.910 --> 00:39:29.920 align:start position:0%
in Emacs and Emacs has, I'm sure, all
 

00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:31.270 align:start position:0%
in Emacs and Emacs has, I'm sure, all
kinds<00:39:30.120><c> of</c><00:39:30.240><c> clever</c><00:39:30.480><c> tricks</c><00:39:30.840><c> to</c><00:39:30.960><c> avoid</c>

00:39:31.270 --> 00:39:31.280 align:start position:0%
kinds of clever tricks to avoid
 

00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:32.550 align:start position:0%
kinds of clever tricks to avoid
repainting<00:39:31.680><c> the</c><00:39:31.800><c> entire</c><00:39:32.120><c> thing</c><00:39:32.360><c> when</c><00:39:32.480><c> you</c>

00:39:32.550 --> 00:39:32.560 align:start position:0%
repainting the entire thing when you
 

00:39:32.560 --> 00:39:33.670 align:start position:0%
repainting the entire thing when you
type,

00:39:33.670 --> 00:39:33.680 align:start position:0%
type,
 

00:39:33.680 --> 00:39:35.830 align:start position:0%
type,
but<00:39:33.720><c> it's</c><00:39:33.840><c> still</c><00:39:34.560><c> the</c><00:39:34.680><c> abstraction</c><00:39:35.240><c> is</c><00:39:35.400><c> still</c>

00:39:35.830 --> 00:39:35.840 align:start position:0%
but it's still the abstraction is still
 

00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:38.590 align:start position:0%
but it's still the abstraction is still
a<00:39:35.920><c> buffer,</c><00:39:37.000><c> you</c><00:39:37.080><c> know,</c><00:39:37.240><c> that's</c><00:39:37.920><c> a</c><00:39:37.960><c> sequential</c>

00:39:38.590 --> 00:39:38.600 align:start position:0%
a buffer, you know, that's a sequential
 

00:39:38.600 --> 00:39:39.590 align:start position:0%
a buffer, you know, that's a sequential
thing.

00:39:39.590 --> 00:39:39.600 align:start position:0%
thing.
 

00:39:39.600 --> 00:39:41.230 align:start position:0%
thing.
The<00:39:39.640><c> DOM</c><00:39:39.960><c> is</c><00:39:40.080><c> a</c><00:39:40.120><c> little</c><00:39:40.360><c> bit</c><00:39:40.480><c> richer</c><00:39:40.760><c> than</c><00:39:40.880><c> that</c>

00:39:41.230 --> 00:39:41.240 align:start position:0%
The DOM is a little bit richer than that
 

00:39:41.240 --> 00:39:42.950 align:start position:0%
The DOM is a little bit richer than that
in<00:39:41.400><c> that</c><00:39:41.680><c> it</c><00:39:41.800><c> gives</c><00:39:42.000><c> you</c><00:39:42.400><c> kind</c><00:39:42.560><c> of</c><00:39:42.640><c> more</c><00:39:42.760><c> like</c><00:39:42.920><c> a</c>

00:39:42.950 --> 00:39:42.960 align:start position:0%
in that it gives you kind of more like a
 

00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:45.110 align:start position:0%
in that it gives you kind of more like a
file<00:39:43.320><c> system</c><00:39:43.920><c> of</c><00:39:44.080><c> buffers.</c><00:39:44.880><c> You</c><00:39:44.960><c> know,</c><00:39:45.040><c> you</c>

00:39:45.110 --> 00:39:45.120 align:start position:0%
file system of buffers. You know, you
 

00:39:45.120 --> 00:39:46.750 align:start position:0%
file system of buffers. You know, you
have<00:39:45.240><c> this</c><00:39:45.400><c> tree</c><00:39:46.040><c> of</c><00:39:46.160><c> buffers</c><00:39:46.480><c> that</c><00:39:46.560><c> you</c><00:39:46.640><c> can</c>

00:39:46.750 --> 00:39:46.760 align:start position:0%
have this tree of buffers that you can
 

00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:47.710 align:start position:0%
have this tree of buffers that you can
kind<00:39:46.920><c> of</c><00:39:47.000><c> read</c><00:39:47.160><c> from</c><00:39:47.320><c> and</c><00:39:47.440><c> write</c><00:39:47.600><c> to</c>

00:39:47.710 --> 00:39:47.720 align:start position:0%
kind of read from and write to
 

00:39:47.720 --> 00:39:50.510 align:start position:0%
kind of read from and write to
individually,<00:39:48.720><c> right?</c><00:39:49.280><c> And</c><00:39:49.400><c> so,</c><00:39:49.560><c> now</c><00:39:49.840><c> you</c><00:39:50.320><c> can</c>

00:39:50.510 --> 00:39:50.520 align:start position:0%
individually, right? And so, now you can
 

00:39:50.520 --> 00:39:52.190 align:start position:0%
individually, right? And so, now you can
you<00:39:50.640><c> can</c><00:39:50.760><c> be</c><00:39:50.880><c> treating</c><00:39:51.240><c> each</c><00:39:51.640><c> each</c><00:39:51.920><c> DOM</c>

00:39:52.190 --> 00:39:52.200 align:start position:0%
you can be treating each each DOM
 

00:39:52.200 --> 00:39:54.910 align:start position:0%
you can be treating each each DOM
element<00:39:53.160><c> as</c><00:39:53.360><c> a</c><00:39:53.400><c> buffer</c><00:39:54.240><c> and</c><00:39:54.400><c> doing</c><00:39:54.600><c> things</c><00:39:54.800><c> to</c>

00:39:54.910 --> 00:39:54.920 align:start position:0%
element as a buffer and doing things to
 

00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:57.110 align:start position:0%
element as a buffer and doing things to
them<00:39:55.040><c> individually.</c><00:39:56.040><c> And</c><00:39:56.160><c> once</c><00:39:56.320><c> you</c><00:39:56.440><c> have</c><00:39:56.960><c> if</c>

00:39:57.110 --> 00:39:57.120 align:start position:0%
them individually. And once you have if
 

00:39:57.120 --> 00:39:59.390 align:start position:0%
them individually. And once you have if
you're<00:39:57.240><c> working</c><00:39:57.680><c> with</c><00:39:58.000><c> the</c><00:39:58.600><c> the</c><00:39:58.680><c> DOM</c><00:39:59.000><c> element</c>

00:39:59.390 --> 00:39:59.400 align:start position:0%
you're working with the the DOM element
 

00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:01.790 align:start position:0%
you're working with the the DOM element
itself,<00:40:00.320><c> right?</c><00:40:00.760><c> And</c><00:40:00.880><c> like</c><00:40:01.080><c> everything</c>

00:40:01.790 --> 00:40:01.800 align:start position:0%
itself, right? And like everything
 

00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:03.590 align:start position:0%
itself, right? And like everything
involving<00:40:02.240><c> IO</c><00:40:02.480><c> is</c><00:40:02.640><c> stateful.</c><00:40:03.320><c> When</c><00:40:03.440><c> you</c><00:40:03.480><c> have</c>

00:40:03.590 --> 00:40:03.600 align:start position:0%
involving IO is stateful. When you have
 

00:40:03.600 --> 00:40:05.350 align:start position:0%
involving IO is stateful. When you have
a<00:40:03.640><c> file</c><00:40:03.920><c> handle,</c><00:40:04.160><c> that's</c><00:40:04.360><c> a</c><00:40:04.400><c> stateful</c><00:40:04.840><c> thing</c>

00:40:05.350 --> 00:40:05.360 align:start position:0%
a file handle, that's a stateful thing
 

00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:06.470 align:start position:0%
a file handle, that's a stateful thing
because<00:40:05.640><c> you</c><00:40:05.720><c> might</c><00:40:05.920><c> write</c><00:40:06.120><c> to</c><00:40:06.240><c> it</c><00:40:06.320><c> and</c><00:40:06.400><c> it</c>

00:40:06.470 --> 00:40:06.480 align:start position:0%
because you might write to it and it
 

00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:07.910 align:start position:0%
because you might write to it and it
needs<00:40:06.640><c> to</c><00:40:06.720><c> keep</c><00:40:06.880><c> track</c><00:40:07.160><c> of</c><00:40:07.240><c> its</c><00:40:07.400><c> buffers.</c><00:40:07.800><c> It</c>

00:40:07.910 --> 00:40:07.920 align:start position:0%
needs to keep track of its buffers. It
 

00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:09.230 align:start position:0%
needs to keep track of its buffers. It
needs<00:40:08.080><c> to</c><00:40:08.160><c> keep</c><00:40:08.320><c> track</c><00:40:08.640><c> of,</c><00:40:09.040><c> you</c><00:40:09.120><c> know,</c>

00:40:09.230 --> 00:40:09.240 align:start position:0%
needs to keep track of, you know,
 

00:40:09.240 --> 00:40:10.590 align:start position:0%
needs to keep track of, you know,
whether<00:40:09.480><c> things</c><00:40:09.680><c> are</c><00:40:09.760><c> flushed</c><00:40:10.080><c> to</c><00:40:10.200><c> disk</c><00:40:10.520><c> or</c>

00:40:10.590 --> 00:40:10.600 align:start position:0%
whether things are flushed to disk or
 

00:40:10.600 --> 00:40:11.750 align:start position:0%
whether things are flushed to disk or
whether<00:40:10.760><c> you</c><00:40:10.840><c> could</c><00:40:11.000><c> read</c><00:40:11.160><c> from</c><00:40:11.360><c> it</c><00:40:11.480><c> or</c><00:40:11.560><c> write</c>

00:40:11.750 --> 00:40:11.760 align:start position:0%
whether you could read from it or write
 

00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:14.750 align:start position:0%
whether you could read from it or write
to<00:40:11.880><c> it</c><00:40:12.000><c> or</c><00:40:12.080><c> what.</c><00:40:12.920><c> So,</c>

00:40:14.750 --> 00:40:14.760 align:start position:0%
to it or what. So,
 

00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:16.790 align:start position:0%
to it or what. So,
DOM<00:40:15.040><c> elements</c><00:40:15.400><c> actually</c><00:40:15.800><c> act</c><00:40:16.120><c> the</c><00:40:16.200><c> same</c><00:40:16.560><c> kind</c>

00:40:16.790 --> 00:40:16.800 align:start position:0%
DOM elements actually act the same kind
 

00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:18.750 align:start position:0%
DOM elements actually act the same kind
of<00:40:16.920><c> way</c><00:40:17.200><c> and</c><00:40:17.360><c> so</c><00:40:17.800><c> you</c><00:40:17.960><c> can</c><00:40:18.120><c> do</c><00:40:18.320><c> like</c><00:40:18.480><c> in</c><00:40:18.600><c> that</c>

00:40:18.750 --> 00:40:18.760 align:start position:0%
of way and so you can do like in that
 

00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:21.110 align:start position:0%
of way and so you can do like in that
tab<00:40:19.040><c> example</c><00:40:20.040><c> where</c><00:40:20.160><c> you</c><00:40:20.240><c> can</c><00:40:20.440><c> pass</c><00:40:20.840><c> DOM</c>

00:40:21.110 --> 00:40:21.120 align:start position:0%
tab example where you can pass DOM
 

00:40:21.120 --> 00:40:22.830 align:start position:0%
tab example where you can pass DOM
elements<00:40:21.800><c> to</c><00:40:21.920><c> a</c><00:40:21.960><c> function</c><00:40:22.320><c> that</c><00:40:22.440><c> doesn't</c><00:40:22.680><c> know</c>

00:40:22.830 --> 00:40:22.840 align:start position:0%
elements to a function that doesn't know
 

00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:24.430 align:start position:0%
elements to a function that doesn't know
what<00:40:23.040><c> they</c><00:40:23.240><c> are</c><00:40:23.400><c> at</c><00:40:23.520><c> all.</c>

00:40:24.430 --> 00:40:24.440 align:start position:0%
what they are at all.
 

00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:26.070 align:start position:0%
what they are at all.
And<00:40:24.560><c> they</c><00:40:24.680><c> just</c><00:40:24.840><c> apply</c><00:40:25.120><c> magic</c><00:40:25.520><c> to</c><00:40:25.600><c> them,</c><00:40:25.920><c> and</c>

00:40:26.070 --> 00:40:26.080 align:start position:0%
And they just apply magic to them, and
 

00:40:26.080 --> 00:40:28.030 align:start position:0%
And they just apply magic to them, and
then<00:40:26.280><c> these</c><00:40:26.640><c> DOM</c><00:40:26.920><c> elements</c><00:40:27.240><c> remember</c><00:40:27.960><c> the</c>

00:40:28.030 --> 00:40:28.040 align:start position:0%
then these DOM elements remember the
 

00:40:28.040 --> 00:40:29.790 align:start position:0%
then these DOM elements remember the
magic.<00:40:28.560><c> In</c><00:40:28.680><c> other</c><00:40:28.800><c> words,</c><00:40:29.320><c> attaching</c><00:40:29.720><c> an</c>

00:40:29.790 --> 00:40:29.800 align:start position:0%
magic. In other words, attaching an
 

00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:31.790 align:start position:0%
magic. In other words, attaching an
event<00:40:30.040><c> handler</c><00:40:30.320><c> to</c><00:40:30.440><c> something</c><00:40:30.800><c> is</c><00:40:30.920><c> a</c><00:40:30.960><c> mutation</c>

00:40:31.790 --> 00:40:31.800 align:start position:0%
event handler to something is a mutation
 

00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:33.550 align:start position:0%
event handler to something is a mutation
cuz<00:40:31.960><c> it</c><00:40:32.080><c> has</c><00:40:32.280><c> to</c><00:40:32.400><c> keep</c><00:40:32.640><c> track</c><00:40:33.280><c> of</c><00:40:33.400><c> what</c><00:40:33.520><c> it</c>

00:40:33.550 --> 00:40:33.560 align:start position:0%
cuz it has to keep track of what it
 

00:40:33.560 --> 00:40:35.150 align:start position:0%
cuz it has to keep track of what it
needs<00:40:33.720><c> to</c><00:40:33.800><c> notify.</c>

00:40:35.150 --> 00:40:35.160 align:start position:0%
needs to notify.
 

00:40:35.160 --> 00:40:37.030 align:start position:0%
needs to notify.
So,<00:40:35.400><c> that's</c><00:40:35.600><c> a</c><00:40:35.640><c> very</c><00:40:35.840><c> powerful</c><00:40:36.280><c> thing</c><00:40:36.880><c> when</c>

00:40:37.030 --> 00:40:37.040 align:start position:0%
So, that's a very powerful thing when
 

00:40:37.040 --> 00:40:38.350 align:start position:0%
So, that's a very powerful thing when
you're<00:40:37.120><c> working</c><00:40:37.400><c> with</c><00:40:37.480><c> the</c><00:40:37.640><c> actual</c><00:40:38.080><c> DOM</c>

00:40:38.350 --> 00:40:38.360 align:start position:0%
you're working with the actual DOM
 

00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:39.750 align:start position:0%
you're working with the actual DOM
elements<00:40:38.720><c> because</c><00:40:39.080><c> you</c><00:40:39.160><c> pass</c><00:40:39.400><c> them</c><00:40:39.520><c> to</c><00:40:39.600><c> this</c>

00:40:39.750 --> 00:40:39.760 align:start position:0%
elements because you pass them to this
 

00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:41.510 align:start position:0%
elements because you pass them to this
one<00:40:39.960><c> function</c><00:40:40.360><c> that</c><00:40:40.800><c> just</c><00:40:41.000><c> arranges</c><00:40:41.360><c> some</c>

00:40:41.510 --> 00:40:41.520 align:start position:0%
one function that just arranges some
 

00:40:41.520 --> 00:40:42.830 align:start position:0%
one function that just arranges some
relationship<00:40:42.040><c> between</c><00:40:42.320><c> them</c><00:40:42.480><c> and</c><00:40:42.560><c> passes</c>

00:40:42.830 --> 00:40:42.840 align:start position:0%
relationship between them and passes
 

00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:44.190 align:start position:0%
relationship between them and passes
them<00:40:42.960><c> back.</c><00:40:43.440><c> You</c><00:40:43.520><c> pass</c><00:40:43.720><c> them</c><00:40:43.840><c> to</c><00:40:43.920><c> something</c>

00:40:44.190 --> 00:40:44.200 align:start position:0%
them back. You pass them to something
 

00:40:44.200 --> 00:40:46.430 align:start position:0%
them back. You pass them to something
else.<00:40:45.000><c> You</c><00:40:45.080><c> might</c><00:40:45.240><c> be</c><00:40:45.360><c> mixing</c><00:40:45.760><c> elements</c>

00:40:46.430 --> 00:40:46.440 align:start position:0%
else. You might be mixing elements
 

00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:48.670 align:start position:0%
else. You might be mixing elements
around,<00:40:46.880><c> and</c><00:40:46.960><c> then</c><00:40:47.080><c> you</c><00:40:47.160><c> compose</c><00:40:47.520><c> them</c><00:40:47.640><c> later.</c>

00:40:48.670 --> 00:40:48.680 align:start position:0%
around, and then you compose them later.
 

00:40:48.680 --> 00:40:50.070 align:start position:0%
around, and then you compose them later.
So,<00:40:48.840><c> you're</c><00:40:48.960><c> not,</c><00:40:49.480><c> you</c><00:40:49.560><c> know,</c><00:40:49.720><c> you're</c><00:40:49.840><c> not</c>

00:40:50.070 --> 00:40:50.080 align:start position:0%
So, you're not, you know, you're not
 

00:40:50.080 --> 00:40:52.470 align:start position:0%
So, you're not, you know, you're not
bound<00:40:50.400><c> to</c><00:40:50.480><c> any</c><00:40:50.640><c> particular</c><00:40:51.520><c> composition</c><00:40:52.400><c> of</c>

00:40:52.470 --> 00:40:52.480 align:start position:0%
bound to any particular composition of
 

00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:53.070 align:start position:0%
bound to any particular composition of
them.

00:40:53.070 --> 00:40:53.080 align:start position:0%
them.
 

00:40:53.080 --> 00:40:56.670 align:start position:0%
them.
I<00:40:53.120><c> think</c><00:40:53.320><c> actually</c><00:40:53.640><c> we're</c><00:40:53.760><c> out</c><00:40:53.880><c> of</c><00:40:53.960><c> time.</c><00:40:54.960><c> Um</c>

00:40:56.670 --> 00:40:56.680 align:start position:0%
I think actually we're out of time. Um
 

00:40:56.680 --> 00:40:57.790 align:start position:0%
I think actually we're out of time. Um
I<00:40:56.760><c> think</c><00:40:56.920><c> we</c><00:40:57.000><c> should</c><00:40:57.160><c> leave</c><00:40:57.360><c> you</c><00:40:57.480><c> with</c><00:40:57.640><c> what</c>

00:40:57.790 --> 00:40:57.800 align:start position:0%
I think we should leave you with what
 

00:40:57.800 --> 00:40:59.030 align:start position:0%
I think we should leave you with what
Misha<00:40:58.000><c> just</c><00:40:58.200><c> said,</c><00:40:58.360><c> which</c><00:40:58.480><c> was</c><00:40:58.600><c> remember</c><00:40:58.960><c> the</c>

00:40:59.030 --> 00:40:59.040 align:start position:0%
Misha just said, which was remember the
 

00:40:59.040 --> 00:41:00.870 align:start position:0%
Misha just said, which was remember the
magic.<00:40:59.600><c> That</c><00:40:59.720><c> sounds</c><00:40:59.960><c> cool.</c>

00:41:00.870 --> 00:41:00.880 align:start position:0%
magic. That sounds cool.
 

00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:03.110 align:start position:0%
magic. That sounds cool.
Um<00:41:01.600><c> but</c><00:41:01.800><c> we'll</c><00:41:01.920><c> be</c><00:41:02.000><c> around</c><00:41:02.480><c> if</c><00:41:02.920><c> you</c><00:41:03.000><c> have</c>

00:41:03.110 --> 00:41:03.120 align:start position:0%
Um but we'll be around if you have
 

00:41:03.120 --> 00:41:05.430 align:start position:0%
Um but we'll be around if you have
questions,<00:41:03.680><c> want</c><00:41:03.840><c> to</c><00:41:03.920><c> chat.</c><00:41:04.360><c> Uh</c><00:41:04.440><c> hoplon.io</c><00:41:05.320><c> is</c>

00:41:05.430 --> 00:41:05.440 align:start position:0%
questions, want to chat. Uh hoplon.io is
 

00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:07.110 align:start position:0%
questions, want to chat. Uh hoplon.io is
the<00:41:05.520><c> place</c><00:41:05.760><c> to</c><00:41:05.840><c> go</c><00:41:05.960><c> and</c><00:41:06.080><c> learn.</c>

00:41:07.110 --> 00:41:07.120 align:start position:0%
the place to go and learn.
 

00:41:07.120 --> 00:41:08.350 align:start position:0%
the place to go and learn.
Um<00:41:07.280><c> thank</c><00:41:07.440><c> you</c><00:41:07.520><c> so</c><00:41:07.640><c> much</c><00:41:07.800><c> for</c><00:41:07.920><c> your</c><00:41:08.000><c> time,</c><00:41:08.280><c> and</c>

00:41:08.350 --> 00:41:08.360 align:start position:0%
Um thank you so much for your time, and
 

00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:11.600 align:start position:0%
Um thank you so much for your time, and
thank<00:41:08.520><c> you</c><00:41:08.640><c> Alex</c><00:41:08.920><c> and</c><00:41:09.000><c> everybody</c><00:41:09.280><c> else.</c>